Remote desktop auto login after disconnect

A current limitation of Microsoft's Remote Desktop for Windows XP Professional is that it only allows one user to log into the XP "server". As well, once the "client" connecting computer ends its connected session, the "server" computer remains on the login screen. I know that Microsoft will be enhancing Remote Desktop in the future to address these shortcomings (I believe in Longhorn) and that other software like VNC allows you to remain logged into the "server" after you have disconnected. However, I was hoping for a way to auto-login to the "server" computer whenever I ended the connected session so that I can keep using Remote Desktop (which I consider to be far and away the best terminal server implementation for XP). Well, now I have found a way...just create a batch file (ie a text file with a .bat extension) on the "server" computer and add the following command.... "%SystemRoot%\\system32\\cmd.exe" /C "tscon 0 /dest:console" Now, make sure you run this batch file whenever you want to log of the "client" session. I'm not sure if this idea has been mentioned before but I thought some might find it useful.

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How can I force the server to log off idle RDP session automatically? An idle or inactive session will also consume precious CPU resources and memory. When the number of concurrent connections has reached the limit, your best bet is to kick out idle users. In this tutorial we’ll show you how to use group policy to configure Windows to automatically log off idle remote desktop sessions.

Automatically Log off Idle Remote Desktop Sessions in Windows

  1. Open the Local Group Policy Editor and browse to:
    Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Remote Desktop Services > Remote Desktop Session Host > Session Time Limits

    Remote desktop auto login after disconnect

    In the right panel, double-click the “Set time limit for active but idle Remote Desktop Services sessions” policy.

  2. Change it to Enabled, then set the desired amount of time in the drop-down list right below. Click Apply and then OK. Reboot your computer to put the policy into effect.

    Remote desktop auto login after disconnect

  3. When any RDP user is idle for the group policy specified amount of time, they will receive the following warning:

    “Session has been idle over its time limit. It will be disconnected in 2 minutes. Press any key now to continue session.”

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    You have the chance to click OK to extend the session. Otherwise, the idle session will log off automatically two minutes later.

That’s it!


I am running a promo screen with advertisements, flyers, TOD, etc via an old machine with Windows 7 Ultimate. I remote into the machine via a Windows 10 PRO OS to make changes, and I am trying to make the machine auto login after my Remote Desktop disconnect. I have tried to write a few different batch files and have run as an administrator to no avail. I still receive the "CTRL + ALT + DEL" screen. This defeats the purpose of me remoting in.

My current batch file is as follows: tscon.exe 0 /dest:console

EDIT: It doesn't work.

Any help is appreciated.

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I am working with machine that are hosting several PCs running windows 7 pro.

I quite often need to connect to these PCs using windows remote desktop. This PCs need to have the autologin feature ON (session need to be localy open when the machine startup).

However I have discovered that when autologon is ON, for some reason remote desktop randomly close the session saying that an other user tries to connect. This is really easy to reproduce, as soon as you activate the autologin, you soon will get disconnected.

Any idea how to solve this issue (other than turnin off autologin) ?

Thanks in adance.

After Upgrading 2 of my PCs (same LAN network) to Windows 10 (coming from Win8.1) i tried to setup my old Remote Configurations.

When i connect via rdp (mstsc.exe) I'm getting the active session of the other PC (as i was used to in Win8.1), I see the desktop and after that I immediately get disconnected with an Error Message. Meanwhile i can see the other PC (which I am connecting to via rdp) doing an "auto" login which is the reason I'm getting disconnected in the rdp session.

Sadly my System is in german and i can just try to translate the error message:

"The remote desktop session has closed. The connection has been disconnected because another user has connected to the remote machine" (something like this)

I succesfully managed to use a tool to configure multiple logins of the same user, which isn't the solution I'm looking for, because I definitly want to get the "active" session of the user I am logged in with.

Any help is appreciated.

//Edit: It doesn't matter if I'm connecting from PC1 to PC2 or vice versa... Still same behaviour

//Edit2: PC1 is Windows 10 Education N, PC2 is Windows 10 Pro N

//Edit3: Something to add: I have no passwords set on my Windows Accounts and I enabled the Option to allow Connections without Passwords (secpol.msc -> Local Policies -> Security Options -> Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only -> set to disabled ... As I was playing around some more I thought "let's try setting a password and retry rdp ..." Finally the remote machine is not doing auto logins anymore. Anyway that's not the solution i was looking for. I don't want to be forced to use passwords since it worked that way since i can remember using Remote Desktop.

Any ideas on how to get RDP without using passwords working again?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?) I set up a machine to auto login on startup, since it is physically secure and no need for entering the password each time. But after connecting remotely and disconnecting, it remains in the welcome screen. Is there a way to have it re-login automatically when I disconnect the remote login? All good wishes,

Guy

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?) The only way I've found to do this is to restart the remote computer from within Task Manager. You can use the CTRL+ALT+END keys to bring up Task Manager (or Right click the taskbar on the remote PC and select it). In Task Manager, select the Shutdown Menu and click on Restart. You'll get a message at the client about being disconnected. My understanding is that this behavior (showing the Welcome screen) is by design to prevent unauthorized access to the remote PC. -- Nepatsfan "Guy" <> wrote in message news:... >I set up a machine to auto login on startup, since it is >physically secure > and no need for entering the password each time. > > But after connecting remotely and disconnecting, it remains in > the welcome > screen. > Is there a way to have it re-login automatically when I > disconnect the > remote login? > > All good wishes,

> Guy

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?) Guy wrote: > I set up a machine to auto login on startup, since it is physically > secure and no need for entering the password each time. > > But after connecting remotely and disconnecting, it remains in the > welcome screen. > Is there a way to have it re-login automatically when I disconnect > the remote login? Jeffrey Randow wrote:

> Try running "tscon.exe 0 /dest:console" before you disconnect...

Remote desktop auto login after disconnect

Guy wrote: > is this a one time command / once per boot / or once per > disconnection ? I'd like to automate it... The "tscon 0 /dest:console" command works on the remote host in this way.. You were locally logged into the host at some point and are STILL logged in there - but are no longer actually in front of the PC - but at a remote location. You start a remote desktop connection to the host and log in as the same user - essentially continuing the session you were logged in locally when you were physically at the host. To end your session, instead of disconnecting you run the command line: "tscon 0 /dest:console", which essentially pushes the current session back to the console - or makes it look like you never interrupted the local session. Thus when you get back to the host, it is like you never left that original session. If you have the screensaver set to return to the welcome screen after a certain time, this will STILL happen. The results are the same as your original complaint. I must say at this point, no matter how "private" your host computer may be - having it lock your screen and make you log in to continue the same session is a lot more secure than having it sit tere - unattended and wide open to anyone/thing that walks up and touches the keyboard/mouse. In any case I hope my explanation of the tscon command helps. Notice that if you were never logged in locally in the first place - the push to the console will fail - as there never was a console session. -- <- Shenan -> -- The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are

getting into before you jump in with both feet.


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup_deployment (More info?) The XP licenses that were preinstalled are valid. To replace the preinstalled OS with your volume license OS during a rebuild would also be valid. Just keep records on the OSs that were preinstalled so you can prove ownership. -- Scott Baldridge Windows Server MVP, MCSE "stevenm" > Hi guys, > > We're looking at RIS in our test lab now and are quite pleased with it. > The > big question is how to deploy images to computers that have windows > pre-installed that have their own license key. > > What we've done so far is use one of our XP Pro MVL cds to build our > initial RIS install. We've then used that RIS install to build a PC, put > all > the latest updates and basic apps on and then run riprep to get our > deployable image. > > Having proved that RIS works for us, I want to be able to use RIS to > quickly > restore Windows onto computers that have failed. The way I see it just > now, > I'd have to purchase a XP Pro license for each existing PC. This seems > daft > when each PC already has a pre-installed license. > > Can anybody give me some advice? > > Cheers, > > Steven.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion (More info?) They are part of the W95 installation CD, in the Win95_04.cab file. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Gerald Bramwell" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > Does anyone know where I can get copies of the files for the backup > utility that was with windows 95? > > Thanks

> Gerald


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Would someone please verify the following understanding I have about Dr. Watson use within Win98SE, and suggest a way to troubleshoot the problem described: 1) Dr. Watson CAN collect stack/frame (minidumps) of a program fault. A program fault, as I understand the use of Dr. Watson, is where an application program causes a (minidump) to be captured, and the system stays up and the Dr. Watson log of the event can be collected. From what I have read at the Microsoft site, this is what happens when Dr. Watson is able to collect a log of a program fault event. 2) Dr. Watson CANNOT collect stack/frame (dumps of anykind) of a total system crash. A total system crash would be experienced, for example, if an event like a mouse click causes the system (Win98SE PC) to go directly into a complete power off mode state, and start to reboot - and thus there would be no difference between a Dr. Watson log collected after bootup and one collected prior to duplicating a problem, i.e. unless Dr. Watson could collect a log of the event, which in my case, it appears that Dr. Watson cannot, because the system crashed, and Dr. Watson was not sufficiently in control to the task. When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system crash. Any suggestions which lead to being able to capture the stack/frame dump of this event will be much appreciated! In the total system crash scenario - relative to Win98SE, since Dr. Watson is classified as a 'postmortem debugger', are there any product quality system level debuggers/tools that can capture a total system crash stack/frame dump, etc. and return control to the desktop without experiencing the total system crash? For example, is there a SDK with a suitable system crash tolerant debugger that I can download for use in troubleshooting this problem? Tia,

-- Tom

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;275481

How to troubleshoot program faults with DrWatson Likely, that won't answer your questions, though. | When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection | to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system | crash. Have you un/re-installed it? I guess, they may have something on their web site about it. Are you sure you are supposed to be able to look at them while connected to the NET & they are still works in progress? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Tom" <> wrote in message news:064901c51796$31796620$... | Would someone please verify the following understanding I | have about Dr. Watson use within Win98SE, and suggest a way | to troubleshoot the problem described: | | 1) Dr. Watson CAN collect stack/frame (minidumps) of a | program fault. | A program fault, as I understand the use of Dr. Watson, is | where an application program causes a (minidump) to be | captured, and the system stays up and the Dr. Watson log of | the event can be collected. From what I have read at the | Microsoft site, this is what happens when Dr. Watson is | able to collect a log of a program fault event. | | 2) Dr. Watson CANNOT collect stack/frame (dumps of anykind) | of a total system crash. | A total system crash would be experienced, for example, if | an event like a mouse click causes the system (Win98SE PC) | to go directly into a complete power off mode state, and | start to reboot - and thus there would be no difference | between a Dr. Watson log collected after bootup and one | collected prior to duplicating a problem, i.e. unless Dr. | Watson could collect a log of the event, which in my case, | it appears that Dr. Watson cannot, because the system | crashed, and Dr. Watson was not sufficiently in control to | the task. | | When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection | to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system | crash. Any suggestions which lead to being able to capture | the stack/frame dump of this event will be much appreciated! | | In the total system crash scenario - relative to Win98SE, | since Dr. Watson is classified as a 'postmortem debugger', | are there any product quality system level debuggers/tools | that can capture a total system crash stack/frame dump, | etc. and return control to the desktop without experiencing | the total system crash? For example, is there a SDK with a | suitable system crash tolerant debugger that I can download | for use in troubleshooting this problem? | | Tia, | | -- Tom

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was always able to previously look at the firewall logs while connected. Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be able to debug program faults, not system crashes. -- Tom >-----Original Message----- >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;275481 >How to troubleshoot program faults with DrWatson > >Likely, that won't answer your questions, though. > >| When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection >| to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system >| crash. > >Have you un/re-installed it? I guess, they may have something on their >web site about it. Are you sure you are supposed to be able to look at >them while connected to the NET & they are still works in progress? > > >-- >Thanks or Good Luck, >There may be humor in this post, and, >Naturally, you will not sue, >should things get worse after this, >PCR > >"Tom" <> wrote in message >news:064901c51796$31796620$... >| Would someone please verify the following understanding I >| have about Dr. Watson use within Win98SE, and suggest a way >| to troubleshoot the problem described: >| >| 1) Dr. Watson CAN collect stack/frame (minidumps) of a >| program fault. >| A program fault, as I understand the use of Dr. Watson, is >| where an application program causes a (minidump) to be >| captured, and the system stays up and the Dr. Watson log of >| the event can be collected. From what I have read at the >| Microsoft site, this is what happens when Dr. Watson is >| able to collect a log of a program fault event. >| >| 2) Dr. Watson CANNOT collect stack/frame (dumps of anykind) >| of a total system crash. >| A total system crash would be experienced, for example, if >| an event like a mouse click causes the system (Win98SE PC) >| to go directly into a complete power off mode state, and >| start to reboot - and thus there would be no difference >| between a Dr. Watson log collected after bootup and one >| collected prior to duplicating a problem, i.e. unless Dr. >| Watson could collect a log of the event, which in my case, >| it appears that Dr. Watson cannot, because the system >| crashed, and Dr. Watson was not sufficiently in control to >| the task. >| >| When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection >| to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system >| crash. Any suggestions which lead to being able to capture >| the stack/frame dump of this event will be much appreciated! >| >| In the total system crash scenario - relative to Win98SE, >| since Dr. Watson is classified as a 'postmortem debugger', >| are there any product quality system level debuggers/tools >| that can capture a total system crash stack/frame dump, >| etc. and return control to the desktop without experiencing >| the total system crash? For example, is there a SDK with a >| suitable system crash tolerant debugger that I can download >| for use in troubleshooting this problem? >| >| Tia, >| >| -- Tom >| > > >.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) As Richards says, it will be tough to do as you propose. Are you prepared to re-write AV, even should you discover which module is at fault? There is another free one to try...

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

....which is the one I will go for the day McAfee dies or starts to charge me. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Tom" <> wrote in message news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... | Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was | always able to previously look at the firewall logs while | connected. | | Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining | control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be | able to debug program faults, not system crashes. | | -- Tom | | >-----Original Message----- | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;275481 | >How to troubleshoot program faults with DrWatson | > | >Likely, that won't answer your questions, though. | > | >| When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection | >| to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system | >| crash. | > | >Have you un/re-installed it? I guess, they may have | something on their | >web site about it. Are you sure you are supposed to be | able to look at | >them while connected to the NET & they are still works in | progress? | > | > | >-- | >Thanks or Good Luck, | >There may be humor in this post, and, | >Naturally, you will not sue, | >should things get worse after this, | >PCR | > | >"Tom" <> wrote in message | >news:064901c51796$31796620$... | >| Would someone please verify the following understanding I | >| have about Dr. Watson use within Win98SE, and suggest a way | >| to troubleshoot the problem described: | >| | >| 1) Dr. Watson CAN collect stack/frame (minidumps) of a | >| program fault. | >| A program fault, as I understand the use of Dr. Watson, is | >| where an application program causes a (minidump) to be | >| captured, and the system stays up and the Dr. Watson log of | >| the event can be collected. From what I have read at the | >| Microsoft site, this is what happens when Dr. Watson is | >| able to collect a log of a program fault event. | >| | >| 2) Dr. Watson CANNOT collect stack/frame (dumps of anykind) | >| of a total system crash. | >| A total system crash would be experienced, for example, if | >| an event like a mouse click causes the system (Win98SE PC) | >| to go directly into a complete power off mode state, and | >| start to reboot - and thus there would be no difference | >| between a Dr. Watson log collected after bootup and one | >| collected prior to duplicating a problem, i.e. unless Dr. | >| Watson could collect a log of the event, which in my case, | >| it appears that Dr. Watson cannot, because the system | >| crashed, and Dr. Watson was not sufficiently in control to | >| the task. | >| | >| When I try to look at my AV firewall logs during connection | >| to the Internet (via mouse click), I get a total system | >| crash. Any suggestions which lead to being able to capture | >| the stack/frame dump of this event will be much appreciated! | >| | >| In the total system crash scenario - relative to Win98SE, | >| since Dr. Watson is classified as a 'postmortem debugger', | >| are there any product quality system level debuggers/tools | >| that can capture a total system crash stack/frame dump, | >| etc. and return control to the desktop without experiencing | >| the total system crash? For example, is there a SDK with a | >| suitable system crash tolerant debugger that I can download | >| for use in troubleshooting this problem? | >| | >| Tia, | >| | >| -- Tom | >| | > | > | >.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) There is a vast variety of debugging tools available. However, without access to the source code how are you going to know which module, and where in the module, you should be placing your breakpoints? What you are attempting is impractical and I don't know of any circumstance in which anyone other than a MS programmer would actually attempt to solve the problem in this way. What does the firewall provider say about this error? Why not just look at your logs offline? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Tom" <> wrote in message news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... > Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was > always able to previously look at the firewall logs while > connected. > > Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining > control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be

> able to debug program faults, not system crashes.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Thanks for the reply Jeff. I am not interested in setting breakpoints - only in identifying what module name is associated with the stack frame in control when the crash occurs. The crux of the situation is that Dr. Watson has no control in this situation, otherwise, Dr. Watson would be able to capture a minidump (small stack frame dump). This begs the question - What SDK debuggers did the MS developers use for Win98(SE)? That would be useful perhaps. I would like to be able to run a system level debugger under which I could run my AV and dumplicate the problem that way without the system crashing in order to get the information of interest. For example, when I click on the mouse to view the firewall event log, the mouse click itself must be captured by an AV routine to handle which log to access. My current guess is that there may be a problem with the firewall log file - e.g. it may be too large to open, or have been corrupted such that when the file is accessed at runtime - it generates an error condition for which there is no system level handler which results in the system crash. Whether such a scenario is the responsibility of the AV vendor or not, I am not prepared to say without evidence. -- Tom >-----Original Message----- >There is a vast variety of debugging tools available. However, without >access to the source code how are you going to know which module, and where >in the module, you should be placing your breakpoints? What you are >attempting is impractical and I don't know of any circumstance in which >anyone other than a MS programmer would actually attempt to solve the >problem in this way. > >What does the firewall provider say about this error? > >Why not just look at your logs offline? >-- >Jeff Richards >MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >"Tom" <> wrote in message >news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... >> Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was >> always able to previously look at the firewall logs while >> connected. >> >> Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining >> control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be >> able to debug program faults, not system crashes. > > >.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) I think you have a somewhat distorted view of the way the system works. The AV program knows nothing about mouses and mouse clicks - that is entirely the responsibility of Windows. The AV program will process messages that Windows sends, and some of those messages will contain information about mouse clicks that have occurred, so if you could locate the message loop in the AV program and if you could insert your breakpoint there then you could trap each message and take a guess at which ones related to the mouse clicks you were concerned with and step through their processing. But even if you managed that, without the source code you wouldn't know where the process went wrong, and the chance of finding the error is negligible. You don't even know that the error is occurring inside the AV program, and not in some other process that is also reading the AV program's messages. Like I said, it's just not a practical way to track down this sort of error. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Tom" <> wrote in message news:133e01c5192b$3abf7080$... > Thanks for the reply Jeff. > > I am not interested in setting breakpoints - only in > identifying what module name is associated with the stack > frame in control when the crash occurs. The crux of the > situation is that Dr. Watson has no control in this > situation, otherwise, Dr. Watson would be able to capture a > minidump (small stack frame dump). > > This begs the question - What SDK debuggers did the MS > developers use for Win98(SE)? That would be useful > perhaps. I would like to be able to run a system level > debugger under which I could run my AV and dumplicate the > problem that way without the system crashing in order to > get the information of interest. > > For example, when I click on the mouse to view the firewall > event log, the mouse click itself must be captured by an AV > routine to handle which log to access. My current guess is > that there may be a problem with the firewall log file - > e.g. it may be too large to open, or have been corrupted > such that when the file is accessed at runtime - it > generates an error condition for which there is no system > level handler which results in the system crash. > > Whether such a scenario is the responsibility of the AV > vendor or not, I am not prepared to say without evidence. > > -- Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>There is a vast variety of debugging tools available. > However, without >>access to the source code how are you going to know which > module, and where >>in the module, you should be placing your breakpoints? > What you are >>attempting is impractical and I don't know of any > circumstance in which >>anyone other than a MS programmer would actually attempt > to solve the >>problem in this way. >> >>What does the firewall provider say about this error? >> >>Why not just look at your logs offline? >>-- >>Jeff Richards >>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >>"Tom" <> wrote in message >>news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... >>> Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was >>> always able to previously look at the firewall logs while >>> connected. >>> >>> Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining >>> control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be >>> able to debug program faults, not system crashes. >> >> >>.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Yeah, I agree that was phrased poorly. So, what practical way would you advise to track down this sort of error given the limited debugging/dumping facilities of Win98SE? >-----Original Message----- >I think you have a somewhat distorted view of the way the system works. The >AV program knows nothing about mouses and mouse clicks - that is entirely >the responsibility of Windows. The AV program will process messages that >Windows sends, and some of those messages will contain information about >mouse clicks that have occurred, so if you could locate the message loop in >the AV program and if you could insert your breakpoint there then you could >trap each message and take a guess at which ones related to the mouse clicks >you were concerned with and step through their processing. But even if you >managed that, without the source code you wouldn't know where the process >went wrong, and the chance of finding the error is negligible. You don't >even know that the error is occurring inside the AV program, and not in some >other process that is also reading the AV program's messages. > >Like I said, it's just not a practical way to track down this sort of error. >-- >Jeff Richards >MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >"Tom" <> wrote in message >news:133e01c5192b$3abf7080$... >> Thanks for the reply Jeff. >> >> I am not interested in setting breakpoints - only in >> identifying what module name is associated with the stack >> frame in control when the crash occurs. The crux of the >> situation is that Dr. Watson has no control in this >> situation, otherwise, Dr. Watson would be able to capture a >> minidump (small stack frame dump). >> >> This begs the question - What SDK debuggers did the MS >> developers use for Win98(SE)? That would be useful >> perhaps. I would like to be able to run a system level >> debugger under which I could run my AV and dumplicate the >> problem that way without the system crashing in order to >> get the information of interest. >> >> For example, when I click on the mouse to view the firewall >> event log, the mouse click itself must be captured by an AV >> routine to handle which log to access. My current guess is >> that there may be a problem with the firewall log file - >> e.g. it may be too large to open, or have been corrupted >> such that when the file is accessed at runtime - it >> generates an error condition for which there is no system >> level handler which results in the system crash. >> >> Whether such a scenario is the responsibility of the AV >> vendor or not, I am not prepared to say without evidence. >> >> -- Tom >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>There is a vast variety of debugging tools available. >> However, without >>>access to the source code how are you going to know which >> module, and where >>>in the module, you should be placing your breakpoints? >> What you are >>>attempting is impractical and I don't know of any >> circumstance in which >>>anyone other than a MS programmer would actually attempt >> to solve the >>>problem in this way. >>> >>>What does the firewall provider say about this error? >>> >>>Why not just look at your logs offline? >>>-- >>>Jeff Richards >>>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >>>"Tom" <> wrote in message >>>news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... >>>> Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was >>>> always able to previously look at the firewall logs while >>>> connected. >>>> >>>> Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining >>>> control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be >>>> able to debug program faults, not system crashes. >>> >>> >>>. >>> > > >.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Contact the manufacturer to see if they are aware of the problem. Avoid the issue by examining the log files off line. Use a formal problem diagnosis procedure such as :

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Tom" <> wrote in message news:0c5801c519be$cf56a590$... > Yeah, I agree that was phrased poorly. So, what practical > way would you advise to track down this sort of error given > the limited debugging/dumping facilities of Win98SE? > >>-----Original Message----- >>I think you have a somewhat distorted view of the way the > system works. The >>AV program knows nothing about mouses and mouse clicks - > that is entirely >>the responsibility of Windows. The AV program will process > messages that >>Windows sends, and some of those messages will contain > information about >>mouse clicks that have occurred, so if you could locate > the message loop in >>the AV program and if you could insert your breakpoint > there then you could >>trap each message and take a guess at which ones related > to the mouse clicks >>you were concerned with and step through their processing. > But even if you >>managed that, without the source code you wouldn't know > where the process >>went wrong, and the chance of finding the error is > negligible. You don't >>even know that the error is occurring inside the AV > program, and not in some >>other process that is also reading the AV program's messages. >> >>Like I said, it's just not a practical way to track down > this sort of error. >>-- >>Jeff Richards >>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >>"Tom" <> wrote in message >>news:133e01c5192b$3abf7080$... >>> Thanks for the reply Jeff. >>> >>> I am not interested in setting breakpoints - only in >>> identifying what module name is associated with the stack >>> frame in control when the crash occurs. The crux of the >>> situation is that Dr. Watson has no control in this >>> situation, otherwise, Dr. Watson would be able to capture a >>> minidump (small stack frame dump). >>> >>> This begs the question - What SDK debuggers did the MS >>> developers use for Win98(SE)? That would be useful >>> perhaps. I would like to be able to run a system level >>> debugger under which I could run my AV and dumplicate the >>> problem that way without the system crashing in order to >>> get the information of interest. >>> >>> For example, when I click on the mouse to view the firewall >>> event log, the mouse click itself must be captured by an AV >>> routine to handle which log to access. My current guess is >>> that there may be a problem with the firewall log file - >>> e.g. it may be too large to open, or have been corrupted >>> such that when the file is accessed at runtime - it >>> generates an error condition for which there is no system >>> level handler which results in the system crash. >>> >>> Whether such a scenario is the responsibility of the AV >>> vendor or not, I am not prepared to say without evidence. >>> >>> -- Tom >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>There is a vast variety of debugging tools available. >>> However, without >>>>access to the source code how are you going to know which >>> module, and where >>>>in the module, you should be placing your breakpoints? >>> What you are >>>>attempting is impractical and I don't know of any >>> circumstance in which >>>>anyone other than a MS programmer would actually attempt >>> to solve the >>>>problem in this way. >>>> >>>>What does the firewall provider say about this error? >>>> >>>>Why not just look at your logs offline? >>>>-- >>>>Jeff Richards >>>>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >>>>"Tom" <> wrote in message >>>>news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... >>>>> Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was >>>>> always able to previously look at the firewall logs while >>>>> connected. >>>>> >>>>> Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining >>>>> control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be >>>>> able to debug program faults, not system crashes. >>>> >>>> >>>>. >>>> >> >> >>.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Thansk Jeff, I'll give that a try >-----Original Message----- >Contact the manufacturer to see if they are aware of the problem. Avoid the >issue by examining the log files off line. Use a formal problem diagnosis >procedure such as : >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926 >How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 >-- >Jeff Richards >MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >"Tom" <> wrote in message >news:0c5801c519be$cf56a590$... >> Yeah, I agree that was phrased poorly. So, what practical >> way would you advise to track down this sort of error given >> the limited debugging/dumping facilities of Win98SE? >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>I think you have a somewhat distorted view of the way the >> system works. The >>>AV program knows nothing about mouses and mouse clicks - >> that is entirely >>>the responsibility of Windows. The AV program will process >> messages that >>>Windows sends, and some of those messages will contain >> information about >>>mouse clicks that have occurred, so if you could locate >> the message loop in >>>the AV program and if you could insert your breakpoint >> there then you could >>>trap each message and take a guess at which ones related >> to the mouse clicks >>>you were concerned with and step through their processing. >> But even if you >>>managed that, without the source code you wouldn't know >> where the process >>>went wrong, and the chance of finding the error is >> negligible. You don't >>>even know that the error is occurring inside the AV >> program, and not in some >>>other process that is also reading the AV program's messages. >>> >>>Like I said, it's just not a practical way to track down >> this sort of error. >>>-- >>>Jeff Richards >>>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >>>"Tom" <> wrote in message >>>news:133e01c5192b$3abf7080$... >>>> Thanks for the reply Jeff. >>>> >>>> I am not interested in setting breakpoints - only in >>>> identifying what module name is associated with the stack >>>> frame in control when the crash occurs. The crux of the >>>> situation is that Dr. Watson has no control in this >>>> situation, otherwise, Dr. Watson would be able to capture a >>>> minidump (small stack frame dump). >>>> >>>> This begs the question - What SDK debuggers did the MS >>>> developers use for Win98(SE)? That would be useful >>>> perhaps. I would like to be able to run a system level >>>> debugger under which I could run my AV and dumplicate the >>>> problem that way without the system crashing in order to >>>> get the information of interest. >>>> >>>> For example, when I click on the mouse to view the firewall >>>> event log, the mouse click itself must be captured by an AV >>>> routine to handle which log to access. My current guess is >>>> that there may be a problem with the firewall log file - >>>> e.g. it may be too large to open, or have been corrupted >>>> such that when the file is accessed at runtime - it >>>> generates an error condition for which there is no system >>>> level handler which results in the system crash. >>>> >>>> Whether such a scenario is the responsibility of the AV >>>> vendor or not, I am not prepared to say without evidence. >>>> >>>> -- Tom >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>There is a vast variety of debugging tools available. >>>> However, without >>>>>access to the source code how are you going to know which >>>> module, and where >>>>>in the module, you should be placing your breakpoints? >>>> What you are >>>>>attempting is impractical and I don't know of any >>>> circumstance in which >>>>>anyone other than a MS programmer would actually attempt >>>> to solve the >>>>>problem in this way. >>>>> >>>>>What does the firewall provider say about this error? >>>>> >>>>>Why not just look at your logs offline? >>>>>-- >>>>>Jeff Richards >>>>>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >>>>>"Tom" <> wrote in message >>>>>news:088d01c51815$eb25f3c0$... >>>>>> Yes, I have uninstalled/reinstalled the AV, and I was >>>>>> always able to previously look at the firewall logs while >>>>>> connected. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there an SDK system level debugger capable of retaining >>>>>> control in this situation? Dr. Watson appears to only be >>>>>> able to debug program faults, not system crashes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>. >>>>> >>> >>> >>>. >>> > > >.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) It's not a major problem but last night when I used my roxio go back facility to revert my hard drive to the time before I installed winamp( it turned out to be a pest and kept crashing and I thought uninstalling would leave excess rubbish behind), I received a message on the black screen that I see for a short while on start up saying something about 'write protect error'. I was able to enter safe mode and then restarted and was able to sucessfully revert my hard drive to a different point without any problems. What is a write protect error(question mark). --

PSYCHOPIXIE

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) "PSYCHOPIXIE" <> wrote in message

news...

> > It's not a major problem but last night when I used my roxio go back > facility to revert my hard drive to the time before I installed winamp( > it turned out to be a pest and kept crashing and I thought uninstalling > would leave excess rubbish behind), I received a message on the black > screen that I see for a short while on start up saying something about > 'write protect error'. I was able to enter safe mode and then restarted > and was able to sucessfully revert my hard drive to a different point > without any problems. What is a write protect error(question mark). > > > -- > PSYCHOPIXIE I assume your goback program was trying to revert files that were hidden and

or system files ...requiring the reboot to finish the task

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q149962

Troubleshoot Protection Errors, How To -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "PSYCHOPIXIE" <> wrote in message

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| | It's not a major problem but last night when I used my roxio go back | facility to revert my hard drive to the time before I installed winamp( | it turned out to be a pest and kept crashing and I thought uninstalling | would leave excess rubbish behind), I received a message on the black | screen that I see for a short while on start up saying something about | 'write protect error'. I was able to enter safe mode and then restarted | and was able to sucessfully revert my hard drive to a different point | without any problems. What is a write protect error(question mark). | | | --

| PSYCHOPIXIE

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Write protect error literally means that the system tried to write some information and was prevented from doing so. It might be writing to memory, and a memory protection scheme prevented the write, or it might have been writing to disk. For instance, trying to copy a file over the top of an existing file requires deleting the existing file first, and if that file has it's read-only property set then the system will report a write protect error. A file might also be temporarily protected against overwriting or deletion if it is in use by a running application. This can apply to EXE files, and seems the likely cause for your message. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "PSYCHOPIXIE" <> wrote in message

news...

> > It's not a major problem but last night when I used my roxio go back > facility to revert my hard drive to the time before I installed winamp( > it turned out to be a pest and kept crashing and I thought uninstalling > would leave excess rubbish behind), I received a message on the black > screen that I see for a short while on start up saying something about > 'write protect error'. I was able to enter safe mode and then restarted > and was able to sucessfully revert my hard drive to a different point

> without any problems. What is a write protect error(question mark).


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) My computer running windows 98 and updates, saves all searches in the "search" window on Yahoo and Google and any other search I perfrom. How can I prevent that and clean up the old searches so when someone else uses my computer at home it is not revealed? Thanks,

Warren

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) warren wrote: > My computer running windows 98 and updates, saves all searches in the > "search" window on Yahoo and Google and any other search I perfrom. How can > I prevent that and clean up the old searches so when someone else uses my > computer at home it is not revealed? > Thanks, You can't delete these saved searches. They are not saved on your computer but on computers at the companies whose searchengines you use. They are associated back to your computer through the cookies you (knowingly?) accepted to be installed on your computer while using these searchengines. (Innumerable commercial enterprises are tracking every move you make, profiling your behaviour for their own benefit. Offline & Online) Spit out the cookies you have alredy swallowed and decline any new offers unless you really *really* need them. If you use Internet Explorer as your web-browser run the Internet Options Control Panel-applet, look under the General and Privacy tabs and adjust the settings. Tip: The questionmark-button in the upper right corner of windows is usefull. -- Please followup in newsgroup.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and check it out. Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "... et al." <> wrote in message news:KNASd.130931$... > warren wrote: > > > My computer running windows 98 and updates, saves all searches in the > > "search" window on Yahoo and Google and any other search I perfrom. How can > > I prevent that and clean up the old searches so when someone else uses my > > computer at home it is not revealed? > > Thanks, > > You can't delete these saved searches. They are not saved on your > computer but on computers at the companies whose searchengines you use. > They are associated back to your computer through the cookies you > (knowingly?) accepted to be installed on your computer while using these > searchengines. > > (Innumerable commercial enterprises are tracking every move you make, > profiling your behaviour for their own benefit. Offline & Online) > > Spit out the cookies you have alredy swallowed and decline any new > offers unless you really *really* need them. If you use Internet > Explorer as your web-browser run the Internet Options Control > Panel-applet, look under the General and Privacy tabs and adjust the > settings. Tip: The questionmark-button in the upper right corner of > windows is usefull. > > -- > Please followup in newsgroup.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Would spyware/tracking oookies be able to do this tracking function, Gary or would the user have to have a vulnerability in their system through a bad program or spyware or malware, etc.? Thanks in advance for your reply. "Gary S. Terhune" <> wrote in message news:... : That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine : entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. : : Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete : functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and check : it out. : : Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. : : -- : Gary S. Terhune : MS MVP Shell/User

: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm


: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm : : "... et al." <> wrote in message : news:KNASd.130931$... : > warren wrote: : > : > > My computer running windows 98 and updates, saves all searches in : the : > > "search" window on Yahoo and Google and any other search I perfrom. : How can : > > I prevent that and clean up the old searches so when someone else : uses my : > > computer at home it is not revealed? : > > Thanks, : > : > You can't delete these saved searches. They are not saved on your : > computer but on computers at the companies whose searchengines you : use. : > They are associated back to your computer through the cookies you : > (knowingly?) accepted to be installed on your computer while using : these : > searchengines. : > : > (Innumerable commercial enterprises are tracking every move you make, : > profiling your behaviour for their own benefit. Offline & Online) : > : > Spit out the cookies you have alredy swallowed and decline any new : > offers unless you really *really* need them. If you use Internet : > Explorer as your web-browser run the Internet Options Control : > Panel-applet, look under the General and Privacy tabs and adjust the : > settings. Tip: The questionmark-button in the upper right corner of : > windows is usefull. : > : > -- : > Please followup in newsgroup. : > E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Yes, malicious software (adware/spyware) might use cookies to store this knowledge, but they would *not* typically also auto-complete anything in forms. Instead, if you entered a search request at some search engine, the adware might pop up an advertisement related to what you are currently searching for--or it may even replace the search engine with its own. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Dan" <> wrote in message news:%... > Would spyware/tracking oookies be able to do this tracking function, Gary or > would the user have to have a vulnerability in their system through a bad > program or spyware or malware, etc.? Thanks in advance for your reply. > > "Gary S. Terhune" <> wrote in message > news:... > : That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine > : entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. > : > : Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete > : functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and check > : it out. > : > : Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. > : > : -- > : Gary S. Terhune > : MS MVP Shell/User

> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm


> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm > : > : "... et al." <> wrote in message > : news:KNASd.130931$... > : > warren wrote: > : > > : > > My computer running windows 98 and updates, saves all searches in > : the > : > > "search" window on Yahoo and Google and any other search I perfrom. > : How can > : > > I prevent that and clean up the old searches so when someone else > : uses my > : > > computer at home it is not revealed? > : > > Thanks, > : > > : > You can't delete these saved searches. They are not saved on your > : > computer but on computers at the companies whose searchengines you > : use. > : > They are associated back to your computer through the cookies you > : > (knowingly?) accepted to be installed on your computer while using > : these > : > searchengines. > : > > : > (Innumerable commercial enterprises are tracking every move you make, > : > profiling your behaviour for their own benefit. Offline & Online) > : > > : > Spit out the cookies you have alredy swallowed and decline any new > : > offers unless you really *really* need them. If you use Internet > : > Explorer as your web-browser run the Internet Options Control > : > Panel-applet, look under the General and Privacy tabs and adjust the > : > settings. Tip: The questionmark-button in the upper right corner of > : > windows is usefull. > : > > : > -- > : > Please followup in newsgroup. > : > E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. > : >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Great, thank you. "Gary S. Terhune" <> wrote in message news:... : Yes, malicious software (adware/spyware) might use cookies to store this : knowledge, but they would *not* typically also auto-complete anything in : forms. Instead, if you entered a search request at some search engine, : the adware might pop up an advertisement related to what you are : currently searching for--or it may even replace the search engine with : its own. : : -- : Gary S. Terhune : MS MVP Shell/User

: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm


: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm : : "Dan" <> wrote in message : news:%... : > Would spyware/tracking oookies be able to do this tracking function, : Gary or : > would the user have to have a vulnerability in their system through a : bad : > program or spyware or malware, etc.? Thanks in advance for your : reply. : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <> wrote in message : > news:... : > : That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine : > : entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. : > : : > : Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete : > : functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and : check : > : it out. : > : : > : Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. : > : : > : -- : > : Gary S. Terhune : > : MS MVP Shell/User

: > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm


: > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm : > : : > : "... et al." <> wrote in message : > : news:KNASd.130931$... : > : > warren wrote: : > : > : > : > > My computer running windows 98 and updates, saves all searches : in : > : the : > : > > "search" window on Yahoo and Google and any other search I : perfrom. : > : How can : > : > > I prevent that and clean up the old searches so when someone : else : > : uses my : > : > > computer at home it is not revealed? : > : > > Thanks, : > : > : > : > You can't delete these saved searches. They are not saved on your : : > : > computer but on computers at the companies whose searchengines you : > : use. : > : > They are associated back to your computer through the cookies you : > : > (knowingly?) accepted to be installed on your computer while using : > : these : > : > searchengines. : > : > : > : > (Innumerable commercial enterprises are tracking every move you : make, : > : > profiling your behaviour for their own benefit. Offline & Online) : > : > : > : > Spit out the cookies you have alredy swallowed and decline any new : > : > offers unless you really *really* need them. If you use Internet : > : > Explorer as your web-browser run the Internet Options Control : > : > Panel-applet, look under the General and Privacy tabs and adjust : the : > : > settings. Tip: The questionmark-button in the upper right corner : of : > : > windows is usefull. : > : > : > : > -- : > : > Please followup in newsgroup. : > : > E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. : > : : > : >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Gary S. Terhune wrote: > That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine > entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. > > Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete > functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and check > it out. Nowadays i have both Firefox's 'Saved Form Information' and IE's AutoComplete disabled and my cookie handling set to disabled or to a per-session basis in both programs. > > Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. I am certain, err.., i *was* certain that once upon a time i disabled some site from remembering my past searches by purging my cookies. Maybe i plain misremember or perhaps i purged my saved forminfo at the same time without realising what did what... Keeping cookies disabled and testing with the 'Saved Form Information' option in Firefox, and doing a few searches at Google quickly shows that you are right and i was wrong. In IE then, that info can then be enabled/disabled and saved history cleared under Internet Options: Content Tab : AutoComplete... button. I'm sorry for forwarding my confusion regarding cookies on the matter. -- Please followup in newsgroup.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Weirdly enough, you're right about the Address bar list. That list is actually a function of History in IE, and all the Autocomplete option of "Save Web Addresses" does is control whether or not it autocompletes, either using the drop-down list or "inline autocomplete" if "Use Inline Autocomplete" is enabled in Advanced settings. That particular Autocomplete function is one of the more disjointed settings in IE. Typical result of idiot-proofing run amok. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "... et al." <> wrote in message news:gidTd.18030$... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: > > > That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine > > entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. > > > > Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete > > functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and check > > it out. > > Nowadays i have both Firefox's 'Saved Form Information' and IE's > AutoComplete disabled and my cookie handling set to disabled or to a > per-session basis in both programs. > > > > > Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. > > I am certain, err.., i *was* certain that once upon a time i disabled > some site from remembering my past searches by purging my cookies. Maybe > i plain misremember or perhaps i purged my saved forminfo at the same > time without realising what did what... > > Keeping cookies disabled and testing with the 'Saved Form Information' > option in Firefox, and doing a few searches at Google quickly shows that > you are right and i was wrong. > In IE then, that info can then be enabled/disabled and saved history > cleared under Internet Options: Content Tab : AutoComplete... button. > > I'm sorry for forwarding my confusion regarding cookies on the matter. > > -- > Please followup in newsgroup.

> E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Weirdly enough, you're right about the Address bar list. Not sure i was right about anything. ;-/ I wrote about cookies involvment with history lists [in web-forms] and was shown that that wasn't so. > ... about the Address bar list. That list is > actually a function of History in IE, and all the Autocomplete option of > "Save Web Addresses" does is control whether or not it autocompletes, > either using the drop-down list or "inline autocomplete" if "Use Inline > Autocomplete" is enabled in Advanced settings. > > That particular Autocomplete function is one of the more disjointed > settings in IE. Typical result of idiot-proofing run amok. > Ok, thanks for explaining .. and FYI it seems that the Address bar list functions similarly in Firefox. It's a function of the 'History' option, and not disabled by disabling 'Saved Form Information'. I really hate this drop-down list popping up every time i start typing an URL in the address bar. (Places i want to go to often i already have bookmarked and have accessible through the Bookmarks-menu.) The only way to disable this annoyance is a hack to make the file the addresses are saved into, 'history.dat' iirc, to read-only. But when using that hack i noted i couldn't 'Clear' my Firefox cache, and i want to be able to to that as well on occasion. -- Please followup in newsgroup.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) You could use a pair of BAT files to remove and then restore the R/O attribute for that DAT file. More complicated BAT file would simply toggle the attribute. I don't know BAT file commands as well as I do scripting, so I'd use script. I don't know the location of that particular DAT file, so I'll use a bogus path. You'll have to replace "C:\Program Files\Test\Test.dat" with the correct path, making sure to retain the double-quotation marks. ++++++++++++++++++ ' Begin Copy here Option Explicit Dim f, x With CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") Set f = .GetFile("C:\Program Files\Test\test.dat") x = f.Attributes Do Until x = 0 Or x = 1 x = x - 2 Loop If x = 1 Then f.Attributes = f.Attributes - 1 Else: f.Attributes = f.Attributes + 1 End If End With 'End copy here +++++++++++++++++++++ Copy *between* the ++++++ lines and paste into a new text file, then name it whatever you want with VBS extension. Strangely enough, there is no straight manner in which to determine if a number is even or odd in VB Scripting. There is in VBA. If the Firefox cache is anything like IE's cache, you don't want to directly delete the cache files (screws up the DAT file.) But if there is a command line that will do the job, that could be added to the script, plus some changes in the above logic, to do it all in one click from the Quick Launch toolbar. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "... et al." <> wrote in message news:CCgTd.18040$... > I really hate this drop-down list popping up every time i start typing > an URL in the address bar. (Places i want to go to often i already have > bookmarked and have accessible through the Bookmarks-menu.) The only way > to disable this annoyance is a hack to make the file the addresses are > saved into, 'history.dat' iirc, to read-only. But when using that hack i > noted i couldn't 'Clear' my Firefox cache, and i want to be able to to > that as well on occasion.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) On 2/24/2005 4:19 AM, Gary S. Terhune wrote: > You could use a pair of BAT files to remove and then restore the R/O > attribute for that DAT file. More complicated BAT file would simply > toggle the attribute. I don't know BAT file commands as well as I do > scripting, so I'd use script. I don't know the location of that > particular DAT file, so I'll use a bogus path. You'll have to replace > "C:\Program Files\Test\Test.dat" with the correct path, making sure to > retain the double-quotation marks. > > ++++++++++++++++++ > ' Begin Copy here > Option Explicit > Dim f, x > With CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") > Set f = .GetFile("C:\Program Files\Test\test.dat") > x = f.Attributes > Do Until x = 0 Or x = 1 > x = x - 2 > Loop > If x = 1 Then > f.Attributes = f.Attributes - 1 > Else: > f.Attributes = f.Attributes + 1 > End If > End With > 'End copy here > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > Copy *between* the ++++++ lines and paste into a new text file, then > name it whatever you want with VBS extension. Strangely enough, there is > no straight manner in which to determine if a number is even or odd in > VB Scripting. There is in VBA. > Sure there is, just use the MOD operator. result = number Mod 2 If result is 0 then the number is even. If result is 1 then the number is odd. > > If the Firefox cache is anything like IE's cache, you don't want to > directly delete the cache files (screws up the DAT file.) But if there > is a command line that will do the job, that could be added to the > script, plus some changes in the above logic, to do it all in one click > from the Quick Launch toolbar. Hope this helps,

CEF

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) "Charles E Finkenbiner" <> wrote in message news:%... > > Copy *between* the ++++++ lines and paste into a new text file, then > > name it whatever you want with VBS extension. Strangely enough, there is > > no straight manner in which to determine if a number is even or odd in > > VB Scripting. There is in VBA. > > > > Sure there is, just use the MOD operator. result = number Mod 2 > If result is 0 then the number is even. If result is 1 then the number > is odd. Thanks! I knew there had to be a simpler way, but couldn't find it. VB Scripting is the poor cousin of MS's programming families, with truly sparse (and/or dispersed) documentation. But even the MOD solution isn't as straightforward as VBA's IsEven or IsOdd properties. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm


http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Thanks Gary and et. al. -- I changed my autocomplete settings to manual (unchecked) and cleared forms based on your feedback in my 98SE os although Mozilla Firefox is my primary browser. I still want to keep all Windows components fully updated and secure based upon your feedback, Gary. :> "Gary S. Terhune" <> wrote in message news:... : Weirdly enough, you're right about the Address bar list. That list is : actually a function of History in IE, and all the Autocomplete option of : "Save Web Addresses" does is control whether or not it autocompletes, : either using the drop-down list or "inline autocomplete" if "Use Inline : Autocomplete" is enabled in Advanced settings. : : That particular Autocomplete function is one of the more disjointed : settings in IE. Typical result of idiot-proofing run amok. : : -- : Gary S. Terhune : MS MVP Shell/User

: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm


: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm : : "... et al." <> wrote in message : news:gidTd.18030$... : > Gary S. Terhune wrote: : > : > > That's just not the case. Any forms entries, including search engine : > > entries, are only saved by Autocomplete functions in IE/Explorer. : > > : > > Test it yourself. Go to Yahoo! or Google, with all Autocomplete : > > functions disabled, do a search, close all IE windows, go back and : check : > > it out. : > : > Nowadays i have both Firefox's 'Saved Form Information' and IE's : > AutoComplete disabled and my cookie handling set to disabled or to a : > per-session basis in both programs. : > : > > : > > Cookies do a lot of things, but that isn't usually one of them. : > : > I am certain, err.., i *was* certain that once upon a time i disabled : > some site from remembering my past searches by purging my cookies. : Maybe : > i plain misremember or perhaps i purged my saved forminfo at the same : > time without realising what did what... : > : > Keeping cookies disabled and testing with the 'Saved Form Information' : > option in Firefox, and doing a few searches at Google quickly shows : that : > you are right and i was wrong. : > In IE then, that info can then be enabled/disabled and saved history : > cleared under Internet Options: Content Tab : AutoComplete... button. : > : > I'm sorry for forwarding my confusion regarding cookies on the matter. : > : > -- : > Please followup in newsgroup. : > E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

:

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) On 2/24/2005 7:15 AM, Gary S. Terhune wrote: > "Charles E Finkenbiner" <> wrote in message > news:%... > >>>Copy *between* the ++++++ lines and paste into a new text file, then >>>name it whatever you want with VBS extension. Strangely enough, > > there is > >>>no straight manner in which to determine if a number is even or odd > > in > >>>VB Scripting. There is in VBA. >>> >> >>Sure there is, just use the MOD operator. result = number Mod 2 >>If result is 0 then the number is even. If result is 1 then the > > number > >>is odd. > > > Thanks! I knew there had to be a simpler way, but couldn't find it. VB > Scripting is the poor cousin of MS's programming families, with truly > sparse (and/or dispersed) documentation. But even the MOD solution isn't > as straightforward as VBA's IsEven or IsOdd properties. > No problem, create your own IsEven() and IsOdd() functions and use them just as you would in VBA. Example: Option Explicit Dim x, y x = 16 MsgBox(IsEven(x)) ' Displays True If(IsEven(x)) Then MsgBox(x & " is even") ' Displays "16 is even" End If y = 23

MsgBox(IsOdd) ' Displays True


If(IsOdd) Then MsgBox(y & " is odd") ' Display "23 is odd" End If

Function IsEven

If((n Mod 2) = 0) Then IsEven = True Exit Function End If IsEven = False End Function

Function IsOdd

If((n Mod 2) = 1) Then IsOdd = True Exit Function End If IsOdd = False End Function But, I do agree that in VBA these functions are written for you. In VBScript you have to 'roll your own' functions. Hope this helps,

CEF


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) That suggests a hardware failure. The message is probably coming from the monitor itself, which means that the processor isn't starting, or the video card isn't working, or the monitor isn't connected. Do any lights on the front panel or keyboard come on? Is there noise from the fans or hard disk? Are all the cables properly connected? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Novice Question" <Novice > wrote in message news:... > My friend in Tucson has a Gateway. Her system crashed last week. As of > last > evening, when she started up the computer she receives a message on her > screen which reads "power saver on", then the screen goes blank and she > can't > do anything. Where should she begin. Please use basic instructions, > thanks.

> Steve


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip (More info?) I have a system that has two IPs assigned to one NIC (IP1, IP2). What I want to setup is when the system wants to talk to a certain host (call it host B), I want it to use IP2. The system uses IP1 as it's primary IP, and by primary I mean when you do a route print, it is the one in the interface column. This is possible in Linux with subinterfaces, but I can do it in Windows. I know that I could add a second card, but I don't have the PCI slots available. Hopefully this will better show what I want to do: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat -ar .... Network Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.10 30 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.10 30 192.168.1.10 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1

Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip (More info?) I have a system that has two IPs assigned to one NIC (IP1, IP2). What I want to setup is when the system wants to talk to a certain host (call it host B), I want it to use IP2. The system uses IP1 as it's primary IP, and by primary I mean when you do a route print, it is the one in the interface column. This is possible in Linux with subinterfaces, but I can do it in Windows. I know that I could add a second card, but I don't have the PCI slots available. Hopefully this will better show what I want to do: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat -ar .... Network Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.10 30 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.10 30 192.168.1.10 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1

Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip (More info?) I have a system that has two IPs assigned to one NIC (IP1, IP2). What I want to setup is when the system wants to talk to a certain host (call it host B), I want it to use IP2. The system uses IP1 as it's primary IP, and by primary I mean when you do a route print, it is the one in the interface column. This is possible in Linux with subinterfaces, but I can do it in Windows. I know that I could add a second card, but I don't have the PCI slots available. Hopefully this will better show what I want to do: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netstat -ar .... Network Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.10 30 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.10 30 192.168.1.10 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1

Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Can't run setup.exe for a certain program! I'm running Win98SE with 256 MB ram and a PIII also 10 GB HD. I can't run the setup.exe from this particular CD on this machine. It will work on other machines just fine...but it just hangs on this one. It seems to start and then nothing...no install window or anything. It does show up in running tasks when I do alt-ctrl-del but nothing is

happening. Any ideas?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Copy the contents of the CD to a folder on your hard drive and run Setup from there. Good idea to delete the Autorun.inf file from the local copy. This will at least tell us if it's the program itself or a problem involving reading the CD (a common issue.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "jaybo" <> wrote in message news:... > Can't run setup.exe for a certain program! I'm running Win98SE with 256 MB ram > and a PIII also 10 GB HD. I can't run the setup.exe from this particular CD on > this machine. It will work on other machines just fine...but it just hangs on > this one. It seems to start and then nothing...no install window or anything. > It does show up in running tasks when I do alt-ctrl-del but nothing is

> happening. Any ideas?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) If gary's advice doesnt work check windows update catalogue for installer updates, the cd may require a later version than the one installed with windows --

Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de


spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com Etrust/vet/CA 12 Month free trial (till Feb 2005) http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/ Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan

http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx

Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2)

http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387

Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file

http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters __ "jaybo" <> wrote in message news:... | Can't run setup.exe for a certain program! I'm running Win98SE with 256 MB ram | and a PIII also 10 GB HD. I can't run the setup.exe from this particular CD on | this machine. It will work on other machines just fine...but it just hangs on | this one. It seems to start and then nothing...no install window or anything. | It does show up in running tasks when I do alt-ctrl-del but nothing is

| happening. Any ideas?


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policy (More info?) I have used the policies to disallow the ctrl-alt-delete lockout button, but now the students, will not log off, is there a poilcy that i can enforce an idle timer ? log them off after 10 minutes of no use,.. i was thinking of using the screen saver policy as teh timer, but i dont know the name of the "log off"

executable.. any ideas???

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policy (More info?) There are third party logoff screen savers and one from the Resource Kit called winexit.scr. Winexit would have to be configured to close open applications which can lead to loss of data, but that usually happens only once. Also the registry may need to be modified to allow it to work for non admins depending on the operating system. The links below provide more info. You will want to use Group Policy to prevent users from disabling the screen saver logoff or to change the screen saver. This can be done in user configuration/administrative templates/control panel/display. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314999

http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm --- winexit.scr download link "ABQ_Me" <> wrote in message news:eyYF%... >I have used the policies to disallow the ctrl-alt-delete lockout button, > but now the students, will not log off, is there a poilcy that i can > enforce an idle timer ? > > log them off after 10 minutes of no use,.. i was thinking of using the > screen saver policy as teh timer, but i dont know the name of the "log > off" executable.. any ideas??? >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policy (More info?) Thanks Do you know if this will work from a network share as well as the local system? I dont really want to go aoround to 200+ machines and copy to each local drive. thanks.. ABQ "Steven L Umbach" <> wrote in message news:... > There are third party logoff screen savers and one from the Resource Kit > called winexit.scr. Winexit would have to be configured to close open > applications which can lead to loss of data, but that usually happens only > once. Also the registry may need to be modified to allow it to work for > non admins depending on the operating system. The links below provide more > info. You will want to use Group Policy to prevent users from disabling > the screen saver logoff or to change the screen saver. This can be done in > user configuration/administrative templates/control panel/display. --- > Steve >

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314999


> http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm --- winexit.scr > download link > > "ABQ_Me" <> wrote in message > news:eyYF%... >>I have used the policies to disallow the ctrl-alt-delete lockout button, >> but now the students, will not log off, is there a poilcy that i can >> enforce an idle timer ? >> >> log them off after 10 minutes of no use,.. i was thinking of using the >> screen saver policy as teh timer, but i dont know the name of the "log >> off" executable.. any ideas??? >> >> >

>


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name before it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == xxxx. This statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous strings. Is there a

way to find the Computer Name? Thanks!

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

http://newmanservices.com/vbwebdoc/ipaddr.htm

The URL above will direct you to the computer's name and also provides info on how to change it. Heirloom, old and it's kinda like a dog with no legs, doesn't matter what you call it, it won't come anyway. "CG" <> wrote in message news:... > I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name before > it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == xxxx. This > statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous strings. Is there a

> way to find the Computer Name? Thanks!

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) In news:, CG <> had this to say: > I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name > before it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == > xxxx. This statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous > strings. Is there a way to find the Computer Name? Thanks! That would be because Windows ME doesn't have a computername variable. I did a quick Google and came up with this site for you:

http://www.netopia.com/en-us/support/howtodocs/netoctopus/pmsi.html?print=yes

If you poke around on the site you'll find a computername.exe which you can download. That might do the trick for you. Doesn't appear to be anything that you need to pay for either. Of course I think that they're assuming that you've already installed their application in order to use it. Somehow my network to the ME box has gone a bit awry in the past day so I'm unable to download it while this PC is connected or I'd give it a shot and test it. If it doesn't work head back to a search engine and enter in add the %computername% variable to Windows ME. Galen -- "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for

mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) Hey Galen, The computer's name is actually shown on the Identification tab of the Network applet. From that window you can change it to suit your fancy. Heirloom, old and gonna have company "Galen" <> wrote in message news:... > In news:, > CG <> had this to say: > > > > I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name > > before it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == > > xxxx. This statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous > > strings. Is there a way to find the Computer Name? Thanks! > > That would be because Windows ME doesn't have a computername variable. I did > a quick Google and came up with this site for you: > >

http://www.netopia.com/en-us/support/howtodocs/netoctopus/pmsi.html?print=yes

> > If you poke around on the site you'll find a computername.exe which you can > download. That might do the trick for you. Doesn't appear to be anything > that you need to pay for either. Of course I think that they're assuming > that you've already installed their application in order to use it. Somehow > my network to the ME box has gone a bit awry in the past day so I'm unable > to download it while this PC is connected or I'd give it a shot and test it. > If it doesn't work head back to a search engine and enter in add the > %computername% variable to Windows ME. > > Galen > > -- > > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) Intead of using DOS Batch file programming, try a real interpreter such as Kixstart {

http://kixtart.org Kixtart is CareWare} and then you can use the readvalue() command to look

in the Registry and you will find the computer name as in the script example below. $PCName=readvalue("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ComputerName\Computer Name", "ComputerName") if ($PCName = "The_name_looked_for")=1 ; function to be performed endif -- Dave "CG" <> wrote in message news:... | I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name before | it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == xxxx. This | statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous strings. Is there a

| way to find the Computer Name? Thanks!

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) In news:, heirloom <> had this to say: > Hey Galen, > The computer's name is actually shown on the Identification > tab of the Network applet. From that window you can change it to > suit your fancy. Heirloom, old and gonna > have company I thought that the OP wanted to know why the %computername% programming/scripting variable wouldn't function for them. The ability to do that is not native to Windows ME though %WinDir% is for example. A script to be used on multiple computers would benefit with the %computername% variable as it means the OP doesn't have to generate a custom script for each computer. If the OP wants to use the variable they'll need a third party tool to do it or I think that there might be a way to edit it in the registry but I usually try to avoid giving out advice about reg editing if I can help it. Perhaps I mis-understood what the OP was asking? Galen -- "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for

mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) H, The poster isn't asking how to change the computer name but rather for a method by which a computer's computer name can be checked when running a batch file. This can't be done with Win Me without the use of a third party uitility such as mentioned by Galen in his post. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP heirloom <> wrote:

> http://newmanservices.com/vbwebdoc/ipaddr.htm

> The URL above will direct you to the computer's name and also

> provides info on how to change it.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) Sorry Galen and thanks Mike, 'Twas I that didn't read the OP's message properly. As usual, I stand corrected. Keep me straight, gentlemen.......I don't want to put out any bad skinny. Heirloom, old and bows to Galen & Mike "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:%23BvG$... > Intead of using DOS Batch file programming, try a real interpreter such as Kixstart {

> http://kixtart.org Kixtart is CareWare} and then you can use the

readvalue() command to look > in the Registry and you will find the computer name as in the script example below. > > $PCName=readvalue("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Compu terName\Computer > Name", "ComputerName") > if ($PCName = "The_name_looked_for")=1 > ; function to be performed > endif > > > -- > Dave > > > > > "CG" <> wrote in message > news:... > | I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name before > | it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == xxxx. This > | statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous strings. Is there a > | way to find the Computer Name? Thanks! >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) In news:%, heirloom <> had this to say: > I don't want to > put out any bad skinny. Forgive my youth (only 31) and being an American but I have to ask... What is a "bad skinny" and is it something I can catch from swapping body fluids? *chuckles* Galen -- "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for

mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so skinny "Galen" <> wrote in message news:... > In news:%, > heirloom <> had this to say: > > > > I don't want to > > put out any bad skinny. > > Forgive my youth (only 31) and being an American but I have to ask... What > is a "bad skinny" and is it something I can catch from swapping body fluids? > *chuckles* > > Galen > -- > > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) In news:, heirloom <> had this to say: > LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an > American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is > a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give > you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of > enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so > skinny Alas, I'm in Maine... Thus I'm not certain if it's enlightenment or Nyquil because I have a cold. Either way I certainly have the warm feeling in my belly. I seem to recall "Give me the skinny" in an old black and white movie, James Carrey (spelling) perhaps? I'm not that big of a movie buff but it sounds vaguely familiar and now that I think about it I might have heard it in an old cartoon. Guess it's the generation gap thing. Then again, I was completely lost when someone said something about shiznit and I was pretty close to irate when someone called me "Dawg" (or is it Dog???) the first time when I was out in California last. I guess there's a new generation gap or perhaps by the time slang reaches Maine it's already too late to use it. Galen -- "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for

mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) Everyone, Solved the problem by using Kixtart. After a bit of time to correct script errors, I was able to "read" the pc name and use it in an "IF" statement. Thanks for all the info everyone. "David H. Lipman" wrote: > Intead of using DOS Batch file programming, try a real interpreter such as Kixstart {

> http://kixtart.org Kixtart is CareWare} and then you can use the readvalue() command to look

> in the Registry and you will find the computer name as in the script example below. > > $PCName=readvalue("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ComputerName\Computer > Name", "ComputerName") > if ($PCName = "The_name_looked_for")=1 > ; function to be performed > endif > > > -- > Dave > > > > > "CG" <> wrote in message > news:... > | I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name before > | it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == xxxx. This > | statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous strings. Is there a > | way to find the Computer Name? Thanks! > >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) "Galen" <> wrote in message news:eqYao%... > In news:, > heirloom <> had this to say: > > > > LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an > > American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is > > a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give > > you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of > > enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so > > skinny > > Alas, I'm in Maine... Thus I'm not certain if it's enlightenment or Nyquil > because I have a cold. Either way I certainly have the warm feeling in my > belly. I seem to recall "Give me the skinny" in an old black and white > movie, James Carrey (spelling) perhaps? I'm not that big of a movie buff but > it sounds vaguely familiar and now that I think about it I might have heard > it in an old cartoon. Guess it's the generation gap thing. Then again, I was > completely lost when someone said something about shiznit and I was pretty > close to irate when someone called me "Dawg" (or is it Dog???) the first > time when I was out in California last. I guess there's a new generation gap > or perhaps by the time slang reaches Maine it's already too late to use it. > > Galen > > -- > > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes > > Please excuse my breaking in here to your discussion but slang has fascinated me for many years (I recently tried to find the origin of "worrywort" or, alternatively, "worrywart," with little success). About "skinny," if you are interested in pursuing this any farther, go here:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/17/messages/74.html

where you'll find essentially what Heirloom has already said.

Ken Bland

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) C O O L ! I think you'll find it is a great interpreter and useful in *many* ways. -- Dave "CG" <> wrote in message news:... | Everyone, | | Solved the problem by using Kixtart. After a bit of time to correct script | errors, I was able to "read" the pc name and use it in an "IF" statement. | Thanks for all the info everyone. | | "David H. Lipman" wrote: | | > Intead of using DOS Batch file programming, try a real interpreter such as Kixstart {

| > http://kixtart.org Kixtart is CareWare} and then you can use the readvalue() command to

look | > in the Registry and you will find the computer name as in the script example below. | > | > $PCName=readvalue("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ComputerName\Computer | > Name", "ComputerName") | > if ($PCName = "The_name_looked_for")=1 | > ; function to be performed | > endif | > | > | > -- | > Dave | > | > | > | > | > "CG" <> wrote in message | > news:... | > | I am creating a batch file that needs to determine the Computer Name before | > | it runs. I have no problem with XP using "If %ComputerName% == xxxx. This | > | statement does not work with ME. I have tried numerous strings. Is there a | > | way to find the Computer Name? Thanks! | > | >

| >

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) I think that would have been James "Cagney"......and I think you are correct. Now you have to enlighten me about "shiznit".........sounds like a Jewish swear word. (if anyone here is Jewish, it's a joke......har........no offense intended). BTW, I loved the "first time I visited California last." Heirloom, old and thinks Imodium will cure the shiznits. "Galen" <> wrote in message news:eqYao%... > In news:, > heirloom <> had this to say: > > > > LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an > > American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is > > a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give > > you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of > > enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so > > skinny > > Alas, I'm in Maine... Thus I'm not certain if it's enlightenment or Nyquil > because I have a cold. Either way I certainly have the warm feeling in my > belly. I seem to recall "Give me the skinny" in an old black and white > movie, James Carrey (spelling) perhaps? I'm not that big of a movie buff but > it sounds vaguely familiar and now that I think about it I might have heard > it in an old cartoon. Guess it's the generation gap thing. Then again, I was > completely lost when someone said something about shiznit and I was pretty > close to irate when someone called me "Dawg" (or is it Dog???) the first > time when I was out in California last. I guess there's a new generation gap > or perhaps by the time slang reaches Maine it's already too late to use it. > > Galen > > -- > > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) Thanks, Ken, now we all have the real skinny. Heirloom, old and shiznit worries me "Justin Thyme" <> wrote in message news:... > > "Galen" <> wrote in message > news:eqYao%... > > In news:, > > heirloom <> had this to say: > > > > > > > LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an > > > American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is > > > a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give > > > you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of > > > enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so > > > skinny > > > > Alas, I'm in Maine... Thus I'm not certain if it's enlightenment or Nyquil > > because I have a cold. Either way I certainly have the warm feeling in my > > belly. I seem to recall "Give me the skinny" in an old black and white > > movie, James Carrey (spelling) perhaps? I'm not that big of a movie buff > but > > it sounds vaguely familiar and now that I think about it I might have > heard > > it in an old cartoon. Guess it's the generation gap thing. Then again, I > was > > completely lost when someone said something about shiznit and I was pretty > > close to irate when someone called me "Dawg" (or is it Dog???) the first > > time when I was out in California last. I guess there's a new generation > gap > > or perhaps by the time slang reaches Maine it's already too late to use > it. > > > > Galen > > > > -- > > > > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me > > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am > > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial > > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for > > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes > > > > > Please excuse my breaking in here to your discussion but slang has > fascinated me for many years (I recently tried to find the origin of > "worrywort" or, alternatively, "worrywart," with little success). About > "skinny," if you are interested in pursuing this any farther, go here: >

> http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/17/messages/74.html

> > where you'll find essentially what Heirloom has already said. > > Ken Bland >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shiznit

http://www.brendonwilson.com/profile/000129.shtml

BTW: It does sound like Yiddish, oy yey ;-) -- Dave "heirloom" <> wrote in message news:... | I think that would have been James "Cagney"......and I think you are | correct. Now you have to enlighten me about "shiznit".........sounds like a | Jewish swear word. (if anyone here is Jewish, it's a | joke......har........no offense intended). BTW, I loved the "first time I | visited California last." | Heirloom, old and thinks Imodium will cure the | shiznits. | | "Galen" <> wrote in message | news:eqYao%... | > In news:, | > heirloom <> had this to say: | > | > | > > LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an | > > American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is | > > a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give | > > you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of | > > enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so | > > skinny | > | > Alas, I'm in Maine... Thus I'm not certain if it's enlightenment or Nyquil | > because I have a cold. Either way I certainly have the warm feeling in my | > belly. I seem to recall "Give me the skinny" in an old black and white | > movie, James Carrey (spelling) perhaps? I'm not that big of a movie buff | but | > it sounds vaguely familiar and now that I think about it I might have | heard | > it in an old cartoon. Guess it's the generation gap thing. Then again, I | was | > completely lost when someone said something about shiznit and I was pretty | > close to irate when someone called me "Dawg" (or is it Dog???) the first | > time when I was out in California last. I guess there's a new generation | gap | > or perhaps by the time slang reaches Maine it's already too late to use | it. | > | > Galen | > | > -- | > | > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me | > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am | > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial | > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for | > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes | > | > |

|

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) I'm in no way Yiddish, but, shouldn't that have been "oy vey?" Either way, it's the shiznit! In the words of the famous Paul Harvey, "....and now you know the rest of the skinny." Heirloom, old and something ain't quite right. BTW, I will be holding Mr. Jack Martinelli, MS-MVP, hostage, starting Friday morning. If anyone would like to contribute to his release fund...post back here. <g> Gonna keep him on a diet of cheap Texas wine and chili......talk about a pressurized cabin on his flight home! "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:%...

> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shiznit

>

> http://www.brendonwilson.com/profile/000129.shtml

> > BTW: It does sound like Yiddish, oy yey ;-) > > -- > Dave > > > > > "heirloom" <> wrote in message > news:... > | I think that would have been James "Cagney"......and I think you are > | correct. Now you have to enlighten me about "shiznit".........sounds like a > | Jewish swear word. (if anyone here is Jewish, it's a > | joke......har........no offense intended). BTW, I loved the "first time I > | visited California last." > | Heirloom, old and thinks Imodium will cure the > | shiznits. > | > | "Galen" <> wrote in message > | news:eqYao%... > | > In news:, > | > heirloom <> had this to say: > | > > | > > | > > LOL. I don't remember where I picked that up and I, too, am an > | > > American, even worse, a Texan, by virtue of homestead. "Skinny" is > | > > a colloquial term for 'information'..........for example: "I'll give > | > > you the whole skinny later." Don't you have this warm feeling of > | > > enlightenment now? Heirloom, old and not so > | > > skinny > | > > | > Alas, I'm in Maine... Thus I'm not certain if it's enlightenment or Nyquil > | > because I have a cold. Either way I certainly have the warm feeling in my > | > belly. I seem to recall "Give me the skinny" in an old black and white > | > movie, James Carrey (spelling) perhaps? I'm not that big of a movie buff > | but > | > it sounds vaguely familiar and now that I think about it I might have > | heard > | > it in an old cartoon. Guess it's the generation gap thing. Then again, I > | was > | > completely lost when someone said something about shiznit and I was pretty > | > close to irate when someone called me "Dawg" (or is it Dog???) the first > | > time when I was out in California last. I guess there's a new generation > | gap > | > or perhaps by the time slang reaches Maine it's already too late to use > | it. > | > > | > Galen > | > > | > -- > | > > | > "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me > | > the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am > | > in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial > | > stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for > | > mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes > | > > | > > | > | >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) Yepper -- Typo city, I meant Oy vey ;-) -- Dave "heirloom" <> wrote in message news:%... | I'm in no way Yiddish, but, shouldn't that have been "oy vey?" Either way, | it's the shiznit! In the words of the famous Paul Harvey, "....and now you | know the rest of the skinny." | Heirloom, old and something ain't quite right. | | BTW, I will be holding Mr. Jack Martinelli, MS-MVP, hostage, starting Friday | morning. If anyone would like to contribute to his release fund...post back | here. <g> Gonna keep him on a diet of cheap Texas wine and chili......talk

| about a pressurized cabin on his flight home!

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) What??......no offerings for the release of Mr. Martinelli???? Heirloom, old and may have to make more chili "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:... > Yepper -- Typo city, I meant Oy vey ;-) > > -- > Dave > > > > > "heirloom" <> wrote in message > news:%... > | I'm in no way Yiddish, but, shouldn't that have been "oy vey?" Either way, > | it's the shiznit! In the words of the famous Paul Harvey, "....and now you > | know the rest of the skinny." > | Heirloom, old and something ain't quite right. > | > | BTW, I will be holding Mr. Jack Martinelli, MS-MVP, hostage, starting Friday > | morning. If anyone would like to contribute to his release fund...post back > | here. <g> Gonna keep him on a diet of cheap Texas wine and chili......talk > | about a pressurized cabin on his flight home! >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) > REGEDIT /E regtest.tmp > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ComputerName" This wrapped and should be one line.

Shane

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) I'm impressed. Heirloom, old and easily amused "Shane" <> wrote in message news:... > > REGEDIT /E regtest.tmp > > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ComputerName" > > This wrapped and should be one line. > > > Shane >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) If you're feeding him chilli then he doesn't need a release fund - just a back-blast protector! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"heirloom" <> wrote in message news:... > What??......no offerings for the release of Mr. Martinelli???? > Heirloom, old and may have to make more chili > > > "David H. Lipman" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:... >> Yepper -- Typo city, I meant Oy vey ;-) >> >> -- >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> "heirloom" <> wrote in message >> news:%... >> | I'm in no way Yiddish, but, shouldn't that have been "oy vey?" Either > way, >> | it's the shiznit! In the words of the famous Paul Harvey, "....and now > you >> | know the rest of the skinny." >> | Heirloom, old and something ain't quite > right. >> | >> | BTW, I will be holding Mr. Jack Martinelli, MS-MVP, hostage, starting > Friday >> | morning. If anyone would like to contribute to his release fund...post > back >> | here. <g> Gonna keep him on a diet of cheap Texas wine and > chili......talk >> | about a pressurized cabin on his flight home! >> >> >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?) <lol> And he could probably propel himself home without the need for an aeroplane <g> Joan Noel Paton wrote: > If you're feeding him chilli then he doesn't need a release fund - just a > back-blast protector!

>


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.security (More info?) win2000 network students are bringing in remote desktop software on disk and then gaining control of other win2000 workstations. Is there not a simple setting in local security or GPO or something that prevents all remote desktop connections? please don't answer with 'use only allowed windows apps' in a GPO, as this

is not an option.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.security (More info?) If they are gaining control of other workstations then you have a problem with user group membership or passwords. You can use Domain Security Policy to enforce that users use passwords, enforce the complexity, and maximum password age. Other option are to disable file and print sharing on student computers or change the user right for access this computer from the network to be only domain admins for these computer. That can be done via Group Policy for specific groups of computers such as those in an OU. Ipsec filtering policy can also be configured via Group Policy to prevent student computers from accessing each other but still allow access to domain controllers and authorized computers that they need to access. The link below explains ipsec filtering more. --- Steve

http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1559

"Fabrussio" <> wrote in message news:... > win2000 network > > students are bringing in remote desktop software on disk and then gaining > control of other win2000 workstations. Is there not a simple setting in local > security or GPO or something that prevents all remote desktop connections? > > please don't answer with 'use only allowed windows apps' in a GPO, as this

> is not an option.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.security (More info?) I am not sure if I understand you question and for a complete answer I could use some more information. Would you like to completely disable access to terminal services or would you like to enable them just for few users? If you would like to enable this only for few users (administrators), you could create a group and add this group to "Allow logon locally" to GPO for the server or on Windows XP and Windows 2003 server add this group to "Allow access through Terminal Services". Any users that would not be member of groups added to such policy would not be allowed to logon to server using Terminal Service... -- Mike Microsoft MVP - Windows Security "Fabrussio" <> wrote in message news:... > win2000 network > > students are bringing in remote desktop software on disk and then gaining > control of other win2000 workstations. Is there not a simple setting in > local > security or GPO or something that prevents all remote desktop connections? > > please don't answer with 'use only allowed windows apps' in a GPO, as this

> is not an option.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.security (More info?) Fabrussio wrote: > win2000 network > > students are bringing in remote desktop software on disk and then gaining > control of other win2000 workstations. Is there not a simple setting in local > security or GPO or something that prevents all remote desktop connections? > > please don't answer with 'use only allowed windows apps' in a GPO, as this > is not an option. 1) Does your acceptable use policy forbid the running of non-authorised software? If it doesn't, then it ought to. You then have a student discipline issue which can be dealt with in the usual way, with any luck management will regard it as a very serious offence. 2) You have no reason why they should run software from disks, therefore use security policies to prevent them running applications from this

location (ditto anywhere else YOU haven't installed software).


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?) Hi, When the A records where created, the option for creating PTR records was checked off. Is there a easy way to create all the PTR records? I don't want to create like 200 ptr manually.

Thanks

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?) In news:, MAX <> commented Then Kevin replied below: > Hi, > When the A records where created, the option for creating > PTR records was checked off. Is there a easy way to > create all the PTR records? I don't want to create like > 200 ptr manually. If the "A" record already exists but the PTR record does not, you can only update not create PTR records. You would have to delete and recrete the "A" record choosing create associated PTR record. Otherwise the easiest way is to enable DDNS on the client and zones and run ipconfig /registerdns. -- Best regards, Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] Hope This Helps =================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue, to respond directly to me remove the nospam. from my email address. =================================== http://www.lonestaramerica.com/ =================================== Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix: It will strip signature out and more http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ =================================== Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders with OEBackup:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx


===================================

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?) Don't you have to be in native mode to use DDNS? Thanks "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote: > In news:, > MAX <> commented > Then Kevin replied below: > > Hi, > > When the A records where created, the option for creating > > PTR records was checked off. Is there a easy way to > > create all the PTR records? I don't want to create like > > 200 ptr manually. > > If the "A" record already exists but the PTR record does not, you can only > update not create PTR records. You would have to delete and recrete the "A" > record choosing create associated PTR record. > > Otherwise the easiest way is to enable DDNS on the client and zones and run > ipconfig /registerdns. > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] > Hope This Helps > =================================== > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" > via your newsreader so that others may learn and > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to > me remove the nospam. from my email address. > =================================== > http://www.lonestaramerica.com/ > =================================== > Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix: > It will strip signature out and more > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ > =================================== > Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders > with OEBackup:

> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

> =================================== > >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?) In news:, MAX <> commented Then Kevin replied below: > Don't you have to be in native mode to use DDNS? No. -- Best regards, Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] Hope This Helps =================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue, to respond directly to me remove the nospam. from my email address. =================================== http://www.lonestaramerica.com/ =================================== Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix: It will strip signature out and more http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ =================================== Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders with OEBackup:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx


===================================

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?) thanks "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote: > In news:, > MAX <> commented > Then Kevin replied below: > > Don't you have to be in native mode to use DDNS? > > No. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] > Hope This Helps > =================================== > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" > via your newsreader so that others may learn and > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to > me remove the nospam. from my email address. > =================================== > http://www.lonestaramerica.com/ > =================================== > Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix: > It will strip signature out and more > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ > =================================== > Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders > with OEBackup:

> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

> =================================== > >

>


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsnt.terminalserver.misc (More info?) The licensing service on NT 4.0 is so buggy, that most administrators consider it "best practice" to disable the service alltogether. You can do this without negative effects, since licensing is not nforced in NT 4.0 as it is in W2K and 2003. Make sure that you buy enough licenses to comply with the EULA and store them in your safe deposit, in case you get an audit. Since you get an error about an invalid license (not about not enough licenses being available), it is possible that the above doesn't solve your problem. If it doesn't, delete the invalid (corrupt?) license from the client. 187614 - Removing Terminal Server Licenses from an RDP Client

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=187614

There is actually a post-SP6 hotfix for this problem, but since NT 4.0 is a retired product, you won't be able to get that anymore. 294326 - Event ID 1003: Terminal Service Client Has Provided an Invalid License

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294326

-- Vera Noest MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT

--- please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email --- wrote on 14 feb 2005 in microsoft.public.windowsnt.terminalserver.misc: > This is probably just something obvious I am missing, but maybe > somebody can help me here. > > I have a Windows NT 4 terminal server here and users have > happily connected to it for some time. However, a few days ago > some of the temporary licences apparently ran out and some users > could not connect any more. (Event ID 1003 "The terminal service > client has provided an invalid license.") > > Since this isn't my server (I administer the AD domain, and this > NT 4 server is a legacy box used by another department and was > never part of my domain tree), I didn't actually know how many > licences were ever bought for this server and when they were > bought. (The box also runs Citrix, but ID 1003 seems to point to > a terminal server licence problem.) > > Apparently the server had 15 licences available. So I bought a > 5-licence-pack and tried to add it. (It turns out the licence > pack was for Windows 2003 but the supplier assured me it was > backwards compatible. If it isn't, I'll just use the licences > for my own terminal servers in the AD domain.) > > In "Terminal Server License Manager" I clicked on "License" -> > "Register" and a window came up asking me for the product (I > chose Windows NT Workstation 4.0 Full License because the other > option was an upgrade and made even less sense, I think). I > clicked on Add Licenses and added five licences. A window came > up asking me whether I was sure and certain and whether I agreed > to the terms and I said I was and I did. Since then the server > pretended it had 20 licences (it now pretends it has 25 since I > went through the procedure twice because I wasn't sure whether I > had missed something). > > But it never asked me for the licence codes I got from > Microsoft. And the users in question still cannot connect. > > So my problem is, how do I delete the temporary licences on the > client machines and add licences to the terminal server? >

> Any ideas?


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) "=?Utf-8?B?TWV0YWwgTWlrZQ==?=" <Metal > wrote in news:: > running my trusty Gateway Windows98 PC, installed a D-Link 802.11 > wireless card and wireless router. Win98 machine connects to wireless > network and able to go to internet. Turned on the WEP encryption, > still connects to wireless network however cannot go to internet, get > the standard, unable to connect message, check proxy settings, blah > blah blah. > > I have a windows XP laptop with a Dlink card in it and it connects to > internet with no problem. > > Any ideas? Are you sure you've given the right key? I have a '95 laptop with a wireless pccard, and when I give the wrong WEP key there's no error

message. Excellent connection, network found, but no go.


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) After i created the roaming profile in win2000 server AD domain users and computers , when my user logged on, it has the following error. I have shared the folder and make it full rights for everyone. I even added the user to administrator groups. Pls help. Thanks "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security rights." Regards

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) <> wrote in message news:... > After i created the roaming profile in win2000 server AD domain users > and computers , when my user logged on, it has the following error. I > have shared the folder and make it full rights for everyone. I even > added the user to administrator groups. Pls help. Thanks > > > "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is > attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the > profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible > causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security > rights." > How did you "create" the roaming profile? (Hint: usually you DON'T "create" it but let it be created when the user next logs on...) Create parent directory on file server; Set permissions to allow users to modify (or FC) files and directories there. Set properties in User's PROPERTY SHEE in AD Users/Computers to POINT to that directory you wish the user to use.

Log user ON and OFF.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Herb, i've done all that, i don't create folders for user but they are getting this error. They can logged on to domain even the home directory is ok. What did i miss out ? Thanks Rgds

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) <> wrote in message news:... > Herb, i've done all that, i don't create folders for user but they are > getting this error. They can logged on to domain even the home > directory is ok. What did i miss out ? Thanks Roaming profile top directories have always had to be created (and permissioned) by the admin. If they exist and are writable, and the computers are authenticating themselves and the user then the files get added on the next logon/logoff sequence. You have to entere an EXISTING directory (for profiles) in AD Users and Computers -- that directory is for ONE user but you can use %UserName% to do it for multiple users or copy one with this setting. -- Herb Martin > > Rgds > Daniel

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Herb, how to know that my computer is being authenticated ? Thanks Daniel Herb Martin wrote: > <> wrote in message > news:... > > Herb, i've done all that, i don't create folders for user but they are > > getting this error. They can logged on to domain even the home > > directory is ok. What did i miss out ? Thanks > > Roaming profile top directories have always had to be created > (and permissioned) by the admin. > > If they exist and are writable, and the computers are authenticating > themselves and the user then the files get added on the next logon/logoff > sequence. > > You have to entere an EXISTING directory (for profiles) > in AD Users and Computers -- that directory is for ONE > user but you can use %UserName% to do it for multiple users > or copy one with this setting. > > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > Rgds > > Daniel

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) <> wrote in message news:... > Herb, how to know that my computer is being authenticated ? Thanks It's a good question. Probably the simplest procedure is to open a command prompt and type "set l" (or just set if you cannot remember the variable you want to see starts with an L: logonserver. I don't think that this variable will ever be set to a DC if your machine didn't authenticate and log the user on. You can get more definite information about the computer's secure channel with NLTest but that is overkill. A general test (but it doesn't help that must when you already have problems) is to try to USE your credentials against a known available resource (file share) and if they don't work but you can resolve the names and ping and stuff then you are likely authenticated. We are now full circle because you were having trouble which made us suspect authentication. Set L ....works pretty well for a quick look. -- Herb Martin > > Daniel > > > Herb Martin wrote: > > <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > Herb, i've done all that, i don't create folders for user but they > are > > > getting this error. They can logged on to domain even the home > > > directory is ok. What did i miss out ? Thanks > > > > Roaming profile top directories have always had to be created > > (and permissioned) by the admin. > > > > If they exist and are writable, and the computers are authenticating > > themselves and the user then the files get added on the next > logon/logoff > > sequence. > > > > You have to entere an EXISTING directory (for profiles) > > in AD Users and Computers -- that directory is for ONE > > user but you can use %UserName% to do it for multiple users > > or copy one with this setting. > > > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > Daniel > > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) wrote: > After i created the roaming profile in win2000 server AD domain users > and computers , when my user logged on, it has the following error. I > have shared the folder and make it full rights for everyone. I even > added the user to administrator groups. Pls help. Thanks > > > "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is > attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the > profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible > causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security > rights." > > > Regards > Daniel General tips: 1. Set up a share on the server. For example - d:\profiles, shared as profiles$ to make it hidden from browsing. 2. Make sure the share permissions on profiles$ indicate everyone=full control. Set the NTFS security to administrators, system, and users=full control. 3. In the users' ADUC properties, specify \\server\profiles%\%username% in the profiles field 4. Have each user log into the domain once from their usual workstation (where their existing profile lives) and log out. The profile is now roaming. Notes: * Make sure users understand that they should never log into multiple computers at the same time when they have roaming profiles (unless you make the profiles mandatory by renaming ntuser.dat to ntuser.man so they can't change them). Explain that the last one out wins, when it comes to uploading the final, changed copy of the profile. * Keep your profiles TINY. Redirect My Documents to a subfolder of each user's home directory on the server - either via group policy (folder redirection) or manually (less advisable). If you aren't going to also redirect the desktop using policies, tell people that they are not to store any files on the desktop or you will beat them with a stick. Big profile=slow login/logout, and possible profile corruption. * Note that user profiles are not compatible between different OS versions, even between W2k/XP. Keep all your computers. Keep your workstations as identical as possible - meaning, OS version is the same, SP level is the same, app load is (as much as possible) the same.

* Do not let people store any data locally - all data belongs on the server.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is authenticated ? also if USE and ping can be used then it is authenticated also ? What are the components required to have in order to have roaming profile works ? Regards

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Lanwench, what are those components need to have in order for roaming profiles to be working ? Thanks for your info. Rgds

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Herb, i just tested and set L does return name of the logon server and also does the set command which indicates correct server name. what i need to test next ? Rgds

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Lanwench, problem is the user folder not even created by the system when user logged on and off. This is due to the error id 1521, DETAIL - The system detected a possible attempt to compromise security. Please ensure that you can contact the server that authenticated you. Can't find any info abt this exact error on eventid.net. Possible is nework problem or insufficient security rights. Any ideas now ? Rgds

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) <> wrote in message news:... > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is > authenticated ? I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on it would seem wrong to show a logon server. NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary command line switches.) I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to learn.) > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > authenticated also ? In no way does ping tell you this. Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very certain why ping failed. For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but this is less common today with IP required and few people using other protocols. > What are the components required to have in order > to have roaming profile works ? Authentication Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the group or user to who will save a profile. Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely manner so that it doesn't timeout) -- Herb Martin > > Regards > Daniel

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) <> wrote in message worknews:... > Herb, i just tested and set L does return name of the logon server and > also does the set command which indicates correct server name. what i > need to test next ? Explictly use the share (as the affected user). (logon as [test] user first to avoid accidentally using admin credentials) net use X: \\serverName\shareName [If it fails, let's try specific authentication, which would be necessary if we are not really authenticated on the domain, OR if the server is not properly working in the domain***.]

net use Y: \\serverName\shareName * /useromainName\UserName

If neither of these works, then we likely have a problem with the Server (in the domain) being authenticated. If the first fails and the second works then we pretty much know that the user wasn't fully authenticated and that the user CAN authenticate and use the server resources. Ok, let's assume that X: is connected (first worked). Do these: X: cd \username copy con t.txt Type some test here Anything will do to FINISH you must hit <CTRL-Z><Enter> If this works, you have proven the user can use the share and has enough share AND NTFS permissions to create a file. If all that works then likely the profile will work. ***Forgot to mention this earlier: Server must be authenticated properly and working in the domain (or a trusting domain with trusts working.) -- Herb Martin > > Rgds > Daniel

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the computer name. -- Paul Williams http://www.msresource.net/ http://forums.msresource.net/ "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message news:... <> wrote in message news:... > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is > authenticated ? I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on it would seem wrong to show a logon server. NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary command line switches.) I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to learn.) > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > authenticated also ? In no way does ping tell you this. Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very certain why ping failed. For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but this is less common today with IP required and few people using other protocols. > What are the components required to have in order > to have roaming profile works ? Authentication Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the group or user to who will save a profile. Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely manner so that it doesn't timeout) -- Herb Martin > > Regards > Daniel

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > computer name. > I was also leaving some wriggle room for things like DC available, authenticates, then DC does down (credentials might even expire.) I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... (Looking at the environment works for me, but seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) -- Herb Martin > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > <> wrote in message > news:... > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is > > authenticated ? > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > command line switches.) > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > learn.) > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > authenticated also ? > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > certain why ping failed. > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > this is less common today with IP required and few people > using other protocols. > > > What are the components required to have in order > > to have roaming profile works ? > > Authentication > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > group or user to who will save a profile. > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > Regards > > Daniel > > > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Herb, if i use the net use command each at a time then it is successful. If i use the first and after that the second net use together , 2nd net use will reported error as multiple user logged in a folder, cannot be the same user name. If one at a time both created a mapped drive x and y. But the cd \ username , what does it means ? inside the X drive it doesn't have any folder. But i can copy con t.txt and put the file inside the map drive. What do you mean by server must authenticated properly ? I've checked the net and found the error code. But not sure what it means, any idea ? Thanks SEC_E_DOWNGRADE_DETECTED, The system detected a possible attempt to compromise security. Verify that the server that authenticated you can be contacted.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp

url=/library/enus/secauthn/security/sspi_status_codes.asp Regards

Daniel

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine and > user are authenticated.... That would be nice! Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) -- Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net

http://forums.msresource.net "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message news:%... "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > computer name. > I was also leaving some wriggle room for things like DC available, authenticates, then DC does down (credentials might even expire.) I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... (Looking at the environment works for me, but seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) -- Herb Martin > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > <> wrote in message > news:... > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is > > authenticated ? > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > command line switches.) > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > learn.) > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > authenticated also ? > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > certain why ping failed. > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > this is less common today with IP required and few people > using other protocols. > > > What are the components required to have in order > > to have roaming profile works ? > > Authentication > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > group or user to who will save a profile. > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > Regards > > Daniel > > > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine and > > user are authenticated.... > > That would be nice! Maybe these are close enough:

nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

nltest /finduser:UserName > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but just another hack <grin> #Perl begins $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output @services = `net start`; foreach (@services) { next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; $dc = 1; print if $debug; last; } print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; } if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; } if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { print "logged onto domain.\n"; exit 0; } else { #User is print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; exit 1; } # Perl ends -- Herb Martin > > > -- > > Paul Williams >

> http://www.msresource.net


> http://forums.msresource.net > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:%... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > computer name. > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > things like DC available, authenticates, then > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is > > > authenticated ? > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > command line switches.) > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > learn.) > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > authenticated also ? > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > certain why ping failed. > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > using other protocols. > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > Authentication > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Lanwench, i got it works already. Problem is the norton internet security blocking it. I do all that being told and works. Thanks all you guys . Regards Daniel Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: > wrote: > > After i created the roaming profile in win2000 server AD domain users > > and computers , when my user logged on, it has the following error. I > > have shared the folder and make it full rights for everyone. I even > > added the user to administrator groups. Pls help. Thanks > > > > > > "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is > > attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the > > profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible > > causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security > > rights." > > > > > > Regards > > Daniel > > General tips: > > 1. Set up a share on the server. For example - d:\profiles, shared as > profiles$ to make it hidden from browsing. > 2. Make sure the share permissions on profiles$ indicate everyone=full > control. Set the NTFS security to administrators, system, and users=full > control. > 3. In the users' ADUC properties, specify \\server\profiles%\%username% in > the profiles field > 4. Have each user log into the domain once from their usual workstation > (where their existing profile lives) and log out. The profile is now > roaming. > > Notes: > > * Make sure users understand that they should never log into multiple > computers at the same time when they have roaming profiles (unless you make > the profiles mandatory by renaming ntuser.dat to ntuser.man so they can't > change them). Explain that the > last one out > wins, when it comes to uploading the final, changed copy of the profile. > > * Keep your profiles TINY. Redirect My Documents > to a subfolder of each user's home directory on the server - either via > group policy (folder redirection) or manually (less advisable). If you > aren't going to also redirect the desktop using policies, tell people that > they are not to store any files on the desktop or you will beat them with a > stick. Big profile=slow login/logout, and possible profile corruption. > > * Note that user profiles are not compatible between different OS versions, > even between W2k/XP. Keep all your computers. Keep your workstations as > identical as possible - meaning, OS version is the same, SP level is the > same, app load is (as much as possible) the same. > > * Do not let people store any data locally - all data belongs on the

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! -- Paul Williams http://www.msresource.net/ http://forums.msresource.net/ "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message news:... "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine and > > user are authenticated.... > > That would be nice! Maybe these are close enough:

nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

nltest /finduser:UserName > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but just another hack <grin> #Perl begins $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output @services = `net start`; foreach (@services) { next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; $dc = 1; print if $debug; last; } print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; } if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; } if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { print "logged onto domain.\n"; exit 0; } else { #User is print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; exit 1; } # Perl ends -- Herb Martin > > > -- > > Paul Williams >

> http://www.msresource.net


> http://forums.msresource.net > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:%... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > computer name. > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > things like DC available, authenticates, then > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer is > > > authenticated ? > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > command line switches.) > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > learn.) > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > authenticated also ? > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > certain why ping failed. > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > using other protocols. > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > Authentication > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about > learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... Perl can be learned USEFULLY in stages. Just enough to solve a some problems with only a few lines of code, then later a bit more on how to use libraries provided by other, etc. Learning the regular expression syntax usally presents a steep learning curve but this curve puts you on a very useful plateau with just a bit more effort. And the RegExes are generally applicable to many other tools. Regexes work similarly in grep, sed, awk, many programmers' editors and so one. Once you know the principles then it is easy to adapt to small rule changes or increased features. Even the built-in FindStr has the /R switch for turning on RegEx capability -- meaning you can benefit even on systems that have no Unix-like tools. (Random workstations and servers etc.) If you want help, then let me know. The two class books are "Learning Perl" (14.75 on Amazon new&used) Programming Perl (18.72 new&used.) "Learning Perl" is MUCH simpler and in my opinion "Programming Perl" is MUCH better and an eventual necessity for almost all Perl programmers. But if you no nothing of programming then 'Learning' takes more baby steps. Another EXCELLENT book as you start to USE Perl is "Perl Cookbook" which offers working "snippet" programs and routines that no only solve a multitude of useful problems but stand as superior examples of how an expert programmer makes Perl simple yet amazingly effective. One of the best things about Perl is that 10 lines of Perl often does more than 10-100 lines of C or VB. Fewer lines almost always means faster to program, easier to understand and test, but most of all FEWER BUGS. -- Herb Martin > > I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. > > nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! > > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine > and > > > user are authenticated.... > > > > That would be nice! > > Maybe these are close enough: >

> nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

> > nltest /finduser:UserName > > > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) > > Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but > just another hack <grin> > > #Perl begins > > $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output > @services = `net start`; > foreach (@services) { > next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; > $dc = 1; > print if $debug; > last; > } > > print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { > $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; > $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; > print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; > } > if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { > $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; > print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; > } > > if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { > print "logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 0; > } else { #User is > print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 1; > } > > # Perl ends > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > >

> > http://www.msresource.net


> > http://forums.msresource.net > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:%... > > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > > computer name. > > > > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > > things like DC available, authenticates, then > > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Paul Williams > > > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer > is > > > > authenticated ? > > > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > > command line switches.) > > > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > > learn.) > > > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > > authenticated also ? > > > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > > certain why ping failed. > > > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > > using other protocols. > > > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > > > Authentication > > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > > > -- > > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Paul, i try nltest in windows2000 server but it doesnt have this command. Where can i try it ? Rgds Daniel ptwilliams wrote: > Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about > learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... > > > I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. > > nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! > > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine > and > > > user are authenticated.... > > > > That would be nice! > > Maybe these are close enough: >

> nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

> > nltest /finduser:UserName > > > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) > > Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but > just another hack <grin> > > #Perl begins > > $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output > @services = `net start`; > foreach (@services) { > next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; > $dc = 1; > print if $debug; > last; > } > > print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { > $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; > $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; > print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; > } > if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { > $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; > print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; > } > > if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { > print "logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 0; > } else { #User is > print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 1; > } > > # Perl ends > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > >

> > http://www.msresource.net


> > http://forums.msresource.net > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:%... > > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > > computer name. > > > > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > > things like DC available, authenticates, then > > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Paul Williams > > > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer > is > > > > authenticated ? > > > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > > command line switches.) > > > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > > learn.) > > > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > > authenticated also ? > > > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > > certain why ping failed. > > > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > > using other protocols. > > > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > > > Authentication > > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > > > -- > > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Thanks! I'll take a look at those books. I'm probably going to put it off to the summer -enjoying ADSI via VBS at the moment. But a lot of people are telling me Perl is the way forward... -- Paul Williams http://www.msresource.net/ http://forums.msresource.net/ "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message news:... "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about > learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... Perl can be learned USEFULLY in stages. Just enough to solve a some problems with only a few lines of code, then later a bit more on how to use libraries provided by other, etc. Learning the regular expression syntax usally presents a steep learning curve but this curve puts you on a very useful plateau with just a bit more effort. And the RegExes are generally applicable to many other tools. Regexes work similarly in grep, sed, awk, many programmers' editors and so one. Once you know the principles then it is easy to adapt to small rule changes or increased features. Even the built-in FindStr has the /R switch for turning on RegEx capability -- meaning you can benefit even on systems that have no Unix-like tools. (Random workstations and servers etc.) If you want help, then let me know. The two class books are "Learning Perl" (14.75 on Amazon new&used) Programming Perl (18.72 new&used.) "Learning Perl" is MUCH simpler and in my opinion "Programming Perl" is MUCH better and an eventual necessity for almost all Perl programmers. But if you no nothing of programming then 'Learning' takes more baby steps. Another EXCELLENT book as you start to USE Perl is "Perl Cookbook" which offers working "snippet" programs and routines that no only solve a multitude of useful problems but stand as superior examples of how an expert programmer makes Perl simple yet amazingly effective. One of the best things about Perl is that 10 lines of Perl often does more than 10-100 lines of C or VB. Fewer lines almost always means faster to program, easier to understand and test, but most of all FEWER BUGS. -- Herb Martin > > I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. > > nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! > > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine > and > > > user are authenticated.... > > > > That would be nice! > > Maybe these are close enough: >

> nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

> > nltest /finduser:UserName > > > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) > > Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but > just another hack <grin> > > #Perl begins > > $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output > @services = `net start`; > foreach (@services) { > next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; > $dc = 1; > print if $debug; > last; > } > > print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { > $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; > $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; > print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; > } > if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { > $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; > print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; > } > > if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { > print "logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 0; > } else { #User is > print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 1; > } > > # Perl ends > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > >

> > http://www.msresource.net


> > http://forums.msresource.net > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:%... > > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > > computer name. > > > > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > > things like DC available, authenticates, then > > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Paul Williams > > > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer > is > > > > authenticated ? > > > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > > command line switches.) > > > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > > learn.) > > > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > > authenticated also ? > > > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > > certain why ping failed. > > > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > > using other protocols. > > > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > > > Authentication > > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > > > -- > > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > Thanks! I'll take a look at those books. > > I'm probably going to put it off to the summer -enjoying ADSI via VBS at the > moment. But a lot of people are telling me Perl is the way forward... Maybe closer is that "Perl is A way" (not even the way.) One of the Perl maxims for the language itself is, "There is more than one way to do it...." Really. The language offers so many resources that this is the standard prologue to the answer when someone asks "What's the best way to...?" -- Herb Martin "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:... > Thanks! I'll take a look at those books. > > I'm probably going to put it off to the summer -enjoying ADSI via VBS at the > moment. But a lot of people are telling me Perl is the way forward... > > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about > > learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... > > > Perl can be learned USEFULLY in stages. > > Just enough to solve a some problems with > only a few lines of code, then later a bit more > on how to use libraries provided by other, etc. > > Learning the regular expression syntax usally > presents a steep learning curve but this curve > puts you on a very useful plateau with just a > bit more effort. And the RegExes are generally > applicable to many other tools. > > Regexes work similarly in grep, sed, awk, > many programmers' editors and so one. Once > you know the principles then it is easy to adapt > to small rule changes or increased features. > > Even the built-in FindStr has the /R switch for > turning on RegEx capability -- meaning you can > benefit even on systems that have no Unix-like > tools. (Random workstations and servers etc.) > > If you want help, then let me know. > > The two class books are "Learning Perl" (14.75 > on Amazon new&used) Programming Perl (18.72 > new&used.) > > "Learning Perl" is MUCH simpler and in my opinion > "Programming Perl" is MUCH better and an eventual > necessity for almost all Perl programmers. > > But if you no nothing of programming then 'Learning' > takes more baby steps. > > Another EXCELLENT book as you start to USE Perl > is "Perl Cookbook" which offers working "snippet" > programs and routines that no only solve a multitude > of useful problems but stand as superior examples of > how an expert programmer makes Perl simple yet > amazingly effective. > > One of the best things about Perl is that 10 lines of > Perl often does more than 10-100 lines of C or VB. > > Fewer lines almost always means faster to program, > easier to understand and test, but most of all FEWER > BUGS. > > > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. > > > > nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine > > and > > > > user are authenticated.... > > > > > > That would be nice! > > > > Maybe these are close enough: > >

> > nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

> > > > nltest /finduser:UserName > > > > > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) > > > > Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but > > just another hack <grin> > > > > #Perl begins > > > > $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output > > @services = `net start`; > > foreach (@services) { > > next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; > > $dc = 1; > > print if $debug; > > last; > > } > > > > print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > > print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > > if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { > > $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; > > $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; > > print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; > > } > > if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { > > $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; > > print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; > > } > > > > if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { > > print "logged onto domain.\n"; > > exit 0; > > } else { #User is > > print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; > > exit 1; > > } > > > > # Perl ends > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Paul Williams > > >

> > > http://www.msresource.net


> > > http://forums.msresource.net > > > > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > > news:%... > > > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > > > computer name. > > > > > > > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > > > things like DC available, authenticates, then > > > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > > > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > > > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > > > > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > > > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > > > > > -- > > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Paul Williams > > > > > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > > > news:... > > > > <> wrote in message > > > > news:... > > > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer > > is > > > > > authenticated ? > > > > > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > > > command line switches.) > > > > > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > > > learn.) > > > > > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > > > authenticated also ? > > > > > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > > > certain why ping failed. > > > > > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > > > using other protocols. > > > > > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > > > > > Authentication > > > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) It's part of the support tools. Install them from the \SUPPORT folder on your Windows Installation Media. -- Paul Williams http://www.msresource.net/ http://forums.msresource.net/ <> wrote in message news:... Paul, i try nltest in windows2000 server but it doesnt have this command. Where can i try it ? Rgds Daniel ptwilliams wrote: > Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about > learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... > > > I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. > > nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! > > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > news:... > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > news:... > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the machine > and > > > user are authenticated.... > > > > That would be nice! > > Maybe these are close enough: >

> nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

> > nltest /finduser:UserName > > > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) > > Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but > just another hack <grin> > > #Perl begins > > $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output > @services = `net start`; > foreach (@services) { > next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; > $dc = 1; > print if $debug; > last; > } > > print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; > if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { > $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; > $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; > print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; > } > if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { > $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; > print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; > } > > if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { > print "logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 0; > } else { #User is > print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; > exit 1; > } > > # Perl ends > > -- > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Williams > >

> > http://www.msresource.net


> > http://forums.msresource.net > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > news:%... > > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message > > news:... > > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, e.g. the > > > computer name. > > > > > > > I was also leaving some wriggle room for > > things like DC available, authenticates, then > > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) > > > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to > > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... > > > > (Looking at the environment works for me, but > > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) > > > > -- > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Paul Williams > > > > > > http://www.msresource.net/ > > > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > > > > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > <> wrote in message > > > news:... > > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my computer > is > > > > authenticated ? > > > > > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on > > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. > > > > > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary > > > command line switches.) > > > > > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article > > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious > > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to > > > learn.) > > > > > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is > > > > authenticated also ? > > > > > > In no way does ping tell you this. > > > > > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication > > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very > > > certain why ping failed. > > > > > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in > > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer > > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but > > > this is less common today with IP required and few people > > > using other protocols. > > > > > > > What are the components required to have in order > > > > to have roaming profile works ? > > > > > > Authentication > > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS > > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the > > > group or user to who will save a profile. > > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely > > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) > > > > > > -- > > > Herb Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Or, better yet, from the Service Pack CD-Media located in the same place: Support | Tools. The Support Tools from the Server CD-Media have some problems. I think that dcdiag does some funny things but I can not remember exactly anymore! -- Cary W. Shultz Roanoke, VA 24014 Microsoft Active Directory MVP

http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com

http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message news:%... > It's part of the support tools. Install them from the \SUPPORT folder on > your Windows Installation Media. > > > -- > > Paul Williams > > http://www.msresource.net/ > http://forums.msresource.net/ > > <> wrote in message > news:... > Paul, i try nltest in windows2000 server but it doesnt have this > command. Where can i try it ? > > Rgds > Daniel > > ptwilliams wrote: >> Ah...nice. I'll have a play with that tomorrow. I'm thinking about >> learning Perl. I just downloaded and installed ActivePerl... >> >> >> I often use /whowill, but I'd forgotten about /finduser. >> >> nltest is a real handy tool alright!!! >> >> >> -- >> >> Paul Williams >> >> http://www.msresource.net/ >> http://forums.msresource.net/ >> >> "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message >> news:... >> "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message >> news:... >> > > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to tell if the > machine >> and >> > > user are authenticated.... >> > >> > That would be nice! >> >> Maybe these are close enough: >>

>> nltest /whowillomain.Com UserName

>> >> nltest /finduser:UserName >> >> > Can you whip something up in Perl?!? ;-) >> >> Well, sure, though it wouldn't be direct but >> just another hack <grin> >> >> #Perl begins >> >> $debug = 1; #set to 0 for less output >> @services = `net start`; >> foreach (@services) { >> next unless /^\s+Net Logon\s*$/; >> $dc = 1; >> print if $debug; >> last; >> } >> >> print "DC\n" if $dc && $debug; >> print "not DC\n" if $dc && $debug; >> if (defined($ENV{LOGONSERVER})) { >> $logonServer = $ENV{LOGONSERVER}; >> $logonServer =~ s/.*\\+(.*)/$1/; >> print "LogonServer: $logonServer\n" if $debug; >> } >> if (defined($ENV{COMPUTERNAME})) { >> $computer = $ENV{COMPUTERNAME}; >> print "Computer: $computer\n" if $debug; >> } >> >> if ($dc || ($computer != $logonServer)) { >> print "logged onto domain.\n"; >> exit 0; >> } else { #User is >> print "NOT logged onto domain.\n"; >> exit 1; >> } >> >> # Perl ends >> >> -- >> Herb Martin >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Paul Williams >> >

>> > http://www.msresource.net


>> > http://forums.msresource.net >> > >> > >> > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message >> > news:%... >> > "ptwilliams" <> wrote in message >> > news:... >> > > The logonserver is the local machine if a DC cannot be found, > e.g. the >> > > computer name. >> > > >> > >> > I was also leaving some wriggle room for >> > things like DC available, authenticates, then >> > DC does down (credentials might even expire.) >> > >> > I wonder if there is a built-in and direct way to >> > tell if the machine and user are authenticated.... >> > >> > (Looking at the environment works for me, but >> > seems a bit indirect or non-specific.) >> > >> > -- >> > Herb Martin >> > >> > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > Paul Williams >> > > >> > > http://www.msresource.net/ >> > > http://forums.msresource.net/ >> > > >> > > "Herb Martin" <> wrote in message >> > > news:... >> > > <> wrote in message >> > > news:... >> > > > Herb, firstly if i can set L to a DC and get result then my > computer >> is >> > > > authenticated ? >> > > >> > > I think this is true -- were the the user not logged on >> > > it would seem wrong to show a logon server. >> > > >> > > NLTest is more definitive but difficult to use (contrary >> > > command line switches.) >> > > >> > > I was sort of hoping that someone would post a KB article >> > > describing such tests. (Experience makes it pretty obvious >> > > to me but that is NOT a good answer for someone trying to >> > > learn.) >> > > >> > > > also if USE and ping can be used then it is >> > > > authenticated also ? >> > > >> > > In no way does ping tell you this. >> > > >> > > Ping FAILURE would make it unlikely that authentication >> > > worked but even that is not reliable unless you are very >> > > certain why ping failed. >> > > >> > > For instance, any firewall including the XP-Win2003 built-in >> > > firewall might block ping or IP might be broken a computer >> > > still authenticate in some domains with another protocol but >> > > this is less common today with IP required and few people >> > > using other protocols. >> > > >> > > > What are the components required to have in order >> > > > to have roaming profile works ? >> > > >> > > Authentication >> > > Server with share, proper permissions on share and NTFS >> > > Usually share and NTFS need to be Full Control for the >> > > group or user to who will save a profile. >> > > Network operation so that client can reach the share (timely >> > > manner so that it doesn't timeout) >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Herb Martin >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Regards >> > > > Daniel >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup (More info?) Knowledge Base article 323442 HOW TO: Use the Disk Management Snap-in to Manage Basic and Dynamic (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=323442) contains some brief information (see the Troubleshooting section) and refers you back to the built-in help in Windows. Please let us know if you have specific questions. Kevin McNiel, MCSE/MCSA Platform Server Setup Group This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Please reply to the Group only, This address cannot receive incoming messages. "Amy Thropp" <> wrote in message news:... > Where can I find a description of the procedure for replacing failed > drives

> in Windows 2003 software Raid 5?


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup (More info?) I just had a file window open and mis-clicked soewhere, somehow. Don't know exactly what I did but it opened a window called "Explorer Enhancements" with a whole bunch of check boxes. I closed that window before I really looked at it and then couldn't figure out how to get back to it. Windows Help wasn't much. (Help that is).

Anyone know how to open this window?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup (More info?) Look in the "Recent" folder, it might show there what you opened. John WoofWoof wrote: > I just had a file window open and mis-clicked soewhere, somehow. Don't > know exactly what I did but it opened a window called "Explorer > Enhancements" with a whole bunch of check boxes. > > I closed that window before I really looked at it and then couldn't > figure out how to get back to it. Windows Help wasn't much. (Help that is). >

> Anyone know how to open this window?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup (More info?) When I saw your response I thought "of course!". Then I looked and there was nothing. Then I remembered that (for reasons which aren't relevant) I restored from a backup since then. So I'm still wondering ... John John wrote: > Look in the "Recent" folder, it might show there what you opened. > > John > > WoofWoof wrote: > >> I just had a file window open and mis-clicked soewhere, somehow. Don't >> know exactly what I did but it opened a window called "Explorer >> Enhancements" with a whole bunch of check boxes. >> >> I closed that window before I really looked at it and then couldn't >> figure out how to get back to it. Windows Help wasn't much. (Help that >> is). >> >> Anyone know how to open this window? >

>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup (More info?) Could you have been looking in Winzip at the Explorer Enhancements tab under Options/Configuration? Kevin McNiel, MCSE/MCSA Platform Server Setup Group This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Please reply to the Group only, This address cannot receive incoming messages. "WoofWoof" <> wrote in message news:421ccf8f$0$393$... > When I saw your response I thought "of course!". Then I looked and there > was nothing. Then I remembered that (for reasons which aren't relevant) I > restored from a backup since then. > > So I'm still wondering ... > > > > > John John wrote: >> Look in the "Recent" folder, it might show there what you opened. >> >> John >> >> WoofWoof wrote: >> >>> I just had a file window open and mis-clicked soewhere, somehow. Don't >>> know exactly what I did but it opened a window called "Explorer >>> Enhancements" with a whole bunch of check boxes. >>> >>> I closed that window before I really looked at it and then couldn't >>> figure out how to get back to it. Windows Help wasn't much. (Help that >>> is). >>> >>> Anyone know how to open this window?

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Greetings The reason for me doing all of this is that all the machines are logging onto the AD Domain "UK", but unfortunately the users are logging onto the NT Domain "Europe", therefore I can't set up their user policies when they log onto AD, cos they aren't ever logging onto it. :-( I've done the following: Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet Explorer: Make proxy settings per-machine (rather than per user)

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/gp/792.asp

This bit works cos it's the HKLM set, but I want to also Disable changing proxy settings & Disable changing Automatic Configuration settings under User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet Explorer But then I need to also force the Connection Settings to the Auto-Config script (a .pac file) under User Configuration\Windows Settings\Internet Explorer Maintenance\Connection so they get redirected to the correct proxies for various internal and external sites. Sadly these last two don't appear to take place owing to the user not logging into the AD, even though I'm hoping that since I'm making the proxy setting per machine rather than user, it would just force these settings, whatever user logs in, onto the PC. I'm starting to run out of ideas on what to do here, cos it doesn't appear to be happening. Any ideas on how to get the "User" part of this GPO to kick into the "Computer" config? Thanx

S8n

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Hello Say, Have you tried enable the follow policy setting? Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy\Allow Cross-Forest User Policy and Roaming User Profiles -- Regards Christoffer Andersson Microsoft MVP - Directory Services No email replies please - reply in the newsgroup ------------------------------------------------

http://www.chrisse.se - Active Directory Tips

"Say Ten" <> skrev i meddelandet news:... > Greetings > > The reason for me doing all of this is that all the machines are logging > onto the AD Domain "UK", but unfortunately the users are logging onto the > NT > Domain "Europe", therefore I can't set up their user policies when they > log > onto AD, cos they aren't ever logging onto it. :-( > > I've done the following: > > Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows > Components\Internet > Explorer: > Make proxy settings per-machine (rather than per user) >

> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/gp/792.asp

> > This bit works cos it's the HKLM set, but I want to also Disable changing > proxy settings & Disable changing Automatic Configuration settings under > User > Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet > Explorer > > But then I need to also force the Connection Settings to the Auto-Config > script (a .pac file) under User Configuration\Windows Settings\Internet > Explorer Maintenance\Connection so they get redirected to the correct > proxies > for various internal and external sites. > > Sadly these last two don't appear to take place owing to the user not > logging into the AD, even though I'm hoping that since I'm making the > proxy > setting per machine rather than user, it would just force these settings, > whatever user logs in, onto the PC. > > I'm starting to run out of ideas on what to do here, cos it doesn't appear > to be happening. > Any ideas on how to get the "User" part of this GPO to kick into the > "Computer" config? > > Thanx

> S8n

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) Hi Chriss > Have you tried enable the follow policy setting? > Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy\Allow > Cross-Forest User Policy and Roaming User Profiles I hadn't, owing to the fact that I didn't know it existed. But after reading the explanation, it makes perfect sense. Trying it now. Shall have to wait a little for the GPO to propagate & then shall get back to you. Thanx

S8n

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.active_directory (More info?) I wrote: > > Have you tried enable the follow policy setting? > > Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy\Allow > > Cross-Forest User Policy and Roaming User Profiles > > I hadn't, owing to the fact that I didn't know it existed. But after reading > the explanation, it makes perfect sense. Trying it now. Shall have to wait a > little for the GPO to propagate & then shall get back to you. Thanx, that appears to have sorted out the forcing of proxy/autoconfig settings onto all users on the PC. I'm not able to disable changing those setting tho', but that's easily fixed by simply removing access to the Connections tab. Thanx for the advice, it's much appreciated, especially since it worked. Oh & I've upgraded something in GPMC, as it has a hell of a lot more security features under internet settings, which I'm also using. Update for Windows 2000 (KB842933)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;amp;displaylang=en&familyid=ba478b46-3af7-4eaf-9ce6-e34ea2c74faf&displaylang=en

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Got a virus on my computer and part of the procedure to remove it requires me to go into the registry. But when I type regedit it says that the registry editor was disabled by my administrator. I am the only one using this system. I tried going from Safe Mode and also copying regedit.exe to regedit.com, but the same message comes up.

How can I get into the registry?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) "Moses" <> wrote in message news:... > Got a virus on my computer and part of the procedure to remove it requires me > to go into the registry. But when I type regedit it says that the registry > editor was disabled by my administrator. This is one way this virus works. Identify the virus and look for its specific solution. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) This Swen fix should correct that.

http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/Fixswen.inf

(download, right-click, select Install) ....Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems

http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "Moses" <> wrote: >Got a virus on my computer and part of the procedure to remove it requires me >to go into the registry. But when I type regedit it says that the registry >editor was disabled by my administrator. > >I am the only one using this system. I tried going from Safe Mode and also >copying regedit.exe to regedit.com, but the same message comes up.

>How can I get into the registry?


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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup_deployment (More info?) I need info on replacing Server Hardware. My goal is to replace Server 2 and Server 3 in the environment described below. I prefer to use the same names and IP addresses on the new hardware, but can consider other options. Environment Description: (Windows 2000 Native) Server 1: Win2kSP4 Server – PDC, DNS Server (standard primary), DHCP server, Print Server, file server Server 2: Win2kSP4 Server – Domain controller; RAS Server; Exchange Server (Exchange 2000 SP3) with OWA Server 3: Win2kSP4 Server – Domain controller, DNS Server (secondary), SQL Server, file server Server 4: Win2kSP4 Server – Member server, file server. Here’s where I am in the project so far: - I have purchased 2 new servers and have installed Windows 2000 Server and applied all patches. These servers have not been promoted yet and don’t have SQL Server or Exchange Server installed. - Exchange Server - I located MS Article 297289: How to move Exchange 2000 to New Hardware and Keep the Same Server Name will help with migrating the Exchange server - SQL Server 2000 – I’ve located some articles and our db admin will help with the SQL transfer. Questions: - Will the fact that the 2 servers are both Domain controllers have any impact on how I proceed? - Server 3 as noted above is a Secondary dns server in addition to being a domain controller. Any issues related to migrating a dns server to new hardware? - In addition to the MS Article 297289 on migrating Exchange 2000 to new hardware, can you think of other articles that may apply to the project? - I’m not sure how to proceed and of course want to make these changes with as little disruption to the end – user as possible. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) (A) What about items 2 & 3...?... 1. Turn off screen saver (R-Clk Desktop, Properties, Screen Saver-- None) 2. Turn off power management (Control Panel, Power Management-- Always On,Never,Never,Never) 3. Disable any permanent internet cable connection, perhaps. 4. Suspend Task Scheduler 5. Turn off interfering programs. (B) To expand upon Lee's thought, may as well get rid of all your junk... (1) Delete the contents of C:\Windows\TEMP. Delete contents only. Under normal circumstances, C:\WINDOWS\TEMP can be cleared of files/folders after a fresh boot. You need the fresh boot, because something may be sitting there, waiting to "complete" an install. You will likely have seen a message about it, though. Anyway, you should know whether you've installed something since boot. Now, some files may return after the delete. "WebPoolFileFile" is one. That will come back next boot or when you run McAfee. I have seen one poster who objected, saying one should browse through those files, looking for .log's. He said it might be interesting to see whether there is an error message or something inside. It was too late for me by then. Naturally, if you have actually installed something into TEMP, there might be a Registry connection to it. Those, you need to un/re-install elsewhere. Finally, I even saw a poster who had system files in there, perhaps it was the Temporary Internet Files in there. That shouldn't be! Well, to be certain, is C:\Windows\TEMP mentioned in any of these Registry keys? HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\She ll Folders HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use r Shell Folders (2) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all offline content, OK, OK" These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has an involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next visit. Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back. It's size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings button. (3) Most of the following shall never return again, and were work files, pre-V4: (a) "START, Settings, Folder Options, View tab"; bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions...". (b) Open Explorer to "C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate", and (c) Delete everything in this folder EXCEPT the V4 folder. (d) Open the V4 folder, and delete everything in it EXCEPT for the "iuhist.xml" file.

(4) http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q238165

Deleting APPLOG Content (a) You won't even see it, unless "START, Settings, Folder Options, View tab" is bolted "Show all files"; may as well uncheck "Hide file extensions..." too. (b) START, Find, Files or Folders, Applog" (c) Double-click the Applog folder to open it. (d) On the Edit menu, click Select all. (e) On the File menu, click Delete, and then click Yes when you are prompted to confirm the deletion. APPLOG is used by Defrag to optimize the location of files on your partition. (Some files in it seem extraordinarily large.) It will be recreated and the contents will accumulate, as the second time any app is run it generates an .LGC in that folder. (Optlog.txt, in that folder, will be recreated, when next you Defrag. Save the old one only to retain a record of every app that has run, at least twice, to the date of your last Defrag.) (5) "START, Find, F/F, fff*". Got any, with a name that is tons long? Then... .......Quote......... You find that you are accumulating a lot of temporary files in your Windows directory that start with fff and have a .tmp extension, similar to this: fff137e3_{3BC6A120-EFC3-11D2-96F7-D0634EC10000}.tmp fff137e3_{3BC6A121-EFC3-11D2-96F7-D0634EC10000}.tmp These files are created by a bug in certain versions of MDM.EXE....two every time it is loaded. See here: OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with 'fff' Appear in Windows Folder"

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script Debugger. The fix is to prevent it from loading, by renaming the file, and removing its reference in the startup group. Rename MDM.EXE to MDM.EX_ or MDM.BAD, or something like that. Look for any reference to MDM.EXE in the Startup folders: C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp C:\Windows\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp and in the registry run key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run and delete it. Then delete all those fff___.tmp files. Note that if you reinstall any of the programs that added MDM.EXE, you may get it loaded back, and will have to disable it again. ....glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems .......End....of quote....... (6) Also, do you have SpyBot? Then... "START, Find, F/F, 'Checks*.*, Fixes*.*'" (No quotes; yes comma). If you have a ton of these, then delete them. Go to the Settings screen of SpyBot, & turn off both the Checks & Fixes logs. http://www.pcmag.com/ 's HDValet can help with that. It is configurable, & installs with pre-configured suggestions. By design, it will not delete empty folders, after the files are gone. Also, it will not delete files that are "in use". It isn't pre-configured to delete it's own log & doesn't over-write it. So, occasionally, do go in and trim it. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Chuck" <> wrote in message news:... | I tried bringing up win98 in safe mode and ran the MS defragmenter | (after running scandisk of course). It runs for hours, gets to about 95% | complete, and then reports "disk contents changed, restarting". What's | going on? There is nothing else running. No AV software, no spyware | detection, no scheduler, no screen saver, or anything else, plus I'm in | safe mode. | | --

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Hi Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe get a hold of it??

Cheers

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) I guess it is asking for a file which belongs to the sound card. Usually in windows 98 this happenes. When it asks for the file, Navigate throught the folder of the sound card driver and select 9x or else search for the file k.sys in the sound card driver folder and give the exact location. Venkat "e.l. hibee" wrote: > Hi > > Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when > trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes > up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once > inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file > k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe > get a hold of it?? >

> Cheers

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) If the file is on the 98 CD, after inserting the CD use the browse button to point to the CD Drive:\Win98 folder. Ex if drive is D: D:\Win98. If the browse button is not present, then type the path in. -- Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"e.l. hibee" <> wrote in message

news...

> Hi > > Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when > trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it > comes > up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once > inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file > k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could > maybe > get a hold of it?? >

> Cheers

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) e.l. hibee wrote: > Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when > trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes > up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once > inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file > k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe > get a hold of it?? Secondguessing .. did it ask for KS.sys? This 'Kernel System' file shows up in the devicemanager as one of the driver-files for my SoundCard. If so, it is located in Base5.cab for Win98SE. For the precice location for Win98FE someone else have to chip in. But usually you just have to direct the 'installer' to the directory containing all the *.cab files, using the 'Browse...'-button.

HTH

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Is this an OEM CD? There is no such file as k.sys in the standard Win98 or Win98 SE CDs. ....Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems

http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "e.l. hibee" <> wrote: >Hi > >Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when >trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes >up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once >inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file >k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe >get a hold of it?? >

>Cheers

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:35:02 -0800, "e.l. hibee" <> wrote: >Hi > >Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when >trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes >up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once >inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file >k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe >get a hold of it?? > >Cheers If it is Ks.sys that you need try Start > Run and enter SFC. Extract the file from the Win98 folder on the Windows CD. Extract it to the C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS folder. Don't use the SFC scan feature, it can void any updates you have installed. Regards, Bill Watt

Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "... et al." <> wrote: >e.l. hibee wrote: > >> Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when >> trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes >> up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once >> inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file >> k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe >> get a hold of it?? > >Secondguessing .. did it ask for KS.sys? This 'Kernel System' file shows >up in the devicemanager as one of the driver-files for my SoundCard. > >If so, it is located in Base5.cab for Win98SE. >For the precice location for Win98FE someone else have to chip in. Ks.sys is in Driver20.cab on Win98 FE ....Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems

http://dts-l.org/index.html

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?) Alan Edwards wrote: > In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "... et al." wrote: > >>e.l. hibee wrote: >> >>>Reloading software and drivers onto the PC after a crash. However when >>>trying to install the drivers for the sound card, half way through it comes >>>up with a message asking for the Windows 98 disk to be inserted. Once >>>inserted it then pops up with an error saying that it cannot find the file >>>k.sys, does anybody have any idea what this file is and where I could maybe >>>get a hold of it?? >> >>Secondguessing .. did it ask for KS.sys? This 'Kernel System' file shows >>up in the devicemanager as one of the driver-files for my SoundCard. >> >>If so, it is located in Base5.cab for Win98SE. >>For the precice location for Win98FE someone else have to chip in. > > > Ks.sys is in Driver20.cab on Win98 FE Maybe the OP have a bastard Windows 98 - 'OEM Restore CD' without the cab-files accessible. If so they are hopefully found installed onto the HardDisk (often in C:\Windows\Option\Cabs\) and the OP would need to point the 'installer'-routine to the folder they are in, instead of to the CD. -- Please followup in newsgroup.

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